I have a 911 S 1966

[XTN901]

hey felloow 911 friends ,...


I need some help with a car I have

it is a 1966 911 S

cannot find any info on the S cars prior to 1967

I was going to race this car and looking at the id plate
vin I came across it being an S car

Now I dont want to strip it and weld it all over to make a rally car out of it

I think it can be a starnge valuable car

any input on 1966 S cars

I want to rebuild the right way

car is mostly complete

european vdo inst etc 7000 red line tach

[kenikh]

You should post pictures of the car and VIN plate. I've heard a rumor that some late '66 cars got 'S' VINs. It would be interesting to confirm.

[ttweed]

It may have been built in 1966, and since you are in Mexico, possibly even first registered as a 1966, but the 911S was introduced as a 1967 model year car by the factory, so I would be interested in seeing why you think it is a '66? Definitely post pics of the car! If it is an S model, it should have a Type 901/02 engine and transmission, vented rotors on the disc brakes, front and rear anti-roll bars (15mm front and 16mm rear), 4.5" x 15" Fuchs rims, wide deco trim, basketweave dash and leather-covered steering wheel, all of which distinguished the first S model from the previous 911.

I have owned a 1966 911 that was upgraded to S specs early in it's life, and it had all the above, but try as I might, I could never confirm that it came from the factory as an S model. It was lacking the "S" stamped after the 6-digit VIN number in the trunk, and when I finally got the Kardex, it showed that the car was a normal 911 that had been upgraded. I have yet to hear of a confirmed 1966 model year 911S, although there may have been some "prototype" transitioning by the factory late in 1966, who knows? If so, the car would be very rare and valuable.

TT

[XTN901]

I bought it in the US

and it is a european version

head lights
kph speedo

it has the trim you mention

leather covered wheel

torsion bars

vented rotors

it is an S



I will get the pics to post them }

I srtipped the car to rebuild

but can get pics any way

" THE VIN "

stamped on chassis 306829 S

aluminum plaque 911 S 306829


see ??

this is why I don´t want to weld a roll cage in it and rally it

thanks for the info I am sure with all the knowledge in the theread I will make right desition

[Pete000]

1967 was the first year of the "S" model

[mede8er]

Its a 67......

[XTN901]

I will post the pics tomorrow it is stamped in three difrent places

[DC_Targa]

From Porsche.com

[jkarolyi]

That is a 1967 911S VIN number, and yes, the car is quite valuable if it still has the '67 911S engine. The engine should have a red shroud and Weber 40IDS carburetors.

If you post the seven digit engine number (on the passenger's side of the fan housing), we can tell you if it's a true S engine. An S chassis without the S engine isn't worth nearly as much.

[ttweed]

Originally posted by XTN901
stamped on chassis 306829 S

That is definitely a 1967 VIN. What makes you think the car is a '66?

TT

[jkarolyi]

I've seen this before with other cars that were imported to the US as "grey market" cars. The manufacture date was probably '66 so that's how it was registered here and that's what appears on the title.

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by kenikh
You should post pictures of the car and VIN plate. I've heard a rumor that some late '66 cars got 'S' VINs. It would be interesting to confirm.

Yep! The really early 911's didn't exactly sell like hotcakes. Many of the 356 set simply didn't like them. So, left over 1966 stock was indeed "conveted" into '67's...and some of those were indeed "S" models. How do I know? I was offered one when I bought my first Porsche, a 912...it a '66. I just couldn't afford the extra 911 tab back then.

[Early_S_Man]

A great deal of confusion has been caused over the years by the way the factory presents production numbers ... divided at Dec. 31/Jan. 1 ... in the spec books! That same mistake has been repeated verbatim in many sources, including the Stoddard catalogs and various reference books.

There are no '66 911S models, despite what registered titles may say!

[DaveE]

The title for my '65 (301368) had no year at all. I was young and foolish and had no clue either. This was1980 by the way. I wrote to Porsche asking them and they sent a nice letter in reply telling me and also sent a copy of the Kardex and an owners manual. The good old days...........

[XTN901]

thank you all for the input

I will pst pics

[mede8er]

Post pics of the carbs.....

[Soterik]

This car is already in the EarlyS database, engine should be number 961167. "my" opinion looking at the database is that the engine is not correct for the car, but still a 67S engine (get the Kardex from PCNA to be certain). I've got engine 961128 in car 307164S.

There's a previous owners name listed, along with a phone number if you're interested.

regards,
Eric
elinden@earthlink.net
Currently 5 67S's in the garage.....

[araine901]

1966 was the lowest production year for 911's. I think like 1730 911's regular or S were made in '66. Somthing like half the number of 911's for 65 and 67 and that was the first year they came to the states. The rest of the bodies were used for the 912. That looks like a '67 vin number. I bet it was confused when it was imported.

[ttweed]

Originally posted by Soterik
This car is already in the EarlyS database, engine should be number 961167. "my" opinion looking at the database is that the engine is not correct for the car, but still a 67S engine (get the Kardex from PCNA to be certain). I've got engine 961128 in car 307164S.

Duh, I should have looked in the database myself. This car was probably built the same day as mine! I have chassis 306831S, only 2 numbers off. My engine number is 960841, though, and known to be original, so I have to agree with Eric-that's quite a bit later engine, it seems.

TT

[andyjboy]

Here in the UK the date for new registrations used to be 1st October - so a 911S built in August or September 1966 (a '67 model) was registered as a 1966 model if registered before the end of September.

The reverse situation happened at the end of the '71 model year - people considering buying a new 911 in the summer of 1971 held out until the 2.4 models were in the showrooms. This meant that some late 2.2 models were left languishing in the dealerships & didn't get registered until the latter part of '71 (or even early '72!) which meant they were eventually registered as '72 models.