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Right Otto, The outer ring will not works. I think that someone, once broke off the tab and drilled a hole for an attachment screw. However, the VW unit will fit the 356. Several have used them.

I have two OEM new US complete, in the box, Headlight assemblies. That came with my car, with some other US requires parts. However, I will never used them. Mine was originally a Euro delivery (Danmark) 912 and I have kept it that way.

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As I already mentioned, the relatively cheap VW units are NOT suitable for our P-cars. The ring differs from the Porsche version, which is more flat, and the VW version has a lip for the mounting screw. The position of the VW screw is positioned lower than for Porsche needed so the hole in the lip does no align with the hole in the Porsche lamp bucket.

The parking light in the depicted unit is rather big. The parking light fiting should be part of the reflector and is a small fitting.

The lens could be used ...

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I'm only interested in the lens as i have set of new H4s but don't like the look on an early car.
I know the rings won't work btw.. but recently found you can buy just the VW lens.

The VW lens price: $15 each 111941111H - VW Headlight Lens, OEM Style
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Indeed Jaems, they fit the 356 Porsche. It confirms in a way the relationship - as with so many parts - between the Beetle and the 356. The 356 also has the more bold rims like the VW. I should have been more accurate and have written "Porsche 911/912".

Keep the parts Jaems, they are part of the history of your adorable "silver bird"!

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The lenses will fit the 911/912 H4 units, but I don't know if they are marked with "VW" or just an unknown brand - for sure not with Hella or Bosch. But still a pleasant priced alternative.

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Great info guys!

I originally thought I'd have to shell out mucho dinero for H1's with city lights but now I see I can get this for much less. I already have the two inner parts, screws, and one chrome ring.

Because I'm a complete nerd, information junkie I read auto safety reports and there is a direct correlation betwixt daytime running lights (euro city lights) and the avoidance of accidents. Hence, I'm interested in city lights to keep my little car from getting clobbered by a SUV.

For anyone needing new mounting bolts or chrome rings, Eric Linden at Auto Foreign makes reproductions in the correct chrome brass. Bolts are $20 and two rings are $80.

I'm still hunting the VW reflector parts.

And because every thread needs pictures, here's a swb car with our headlights of choice doing what we all love...

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Otto,

I ordered a set [2] of the lenses to see the quality or lack of and fitment with Porsche trim ring.

Total with shipment from CA to Philadelphia : $39.40

I'll post a picture or two of them asap for the group.
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I did similar experiments, including reflectors, with (replica) VW parts here in Europe. I guess they sell parts here from the same (Chinese? ...) source as in the US.

Looking forward to the results!

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I googled "Hella Fluted headlights lens" There still several places that sell the lens.

VWC-111-941-115-HH - HELLA STYLE FLUTED GLASS HEADLIGHT LENS - BEETLE 46-66 / BUS 50-67 - SOLD EACH

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111941115EV - VW Fluted Euro Headlight Lens, Bug-66

I just found this: The complete Euro fluted Porsche assembly and parts. I did know they had them.

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The $15 VW pieces came today. Fit perfect as Otto said above and nice quality imo.

I have a new pair of H4 lens i wont need now. PM if you need a set.


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Clean degrease them carefully before you assemble the light. Otherwise you will see every fingerprint on them and dust will stick to the glass. And do not use these old seals!

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Will do on the cleaning thanks. The seals are new though out of box.
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Puma,
If you are looking for the reflectors only, you can buy those from this guy in Germany.
http://www.daddys-carparts.com/en/electrical-lightning/porsche-911-912-930/587/headlight-h4-reflectors-for-porsche-911-930-964

or ebay from the same guy.
For Porsche 911 930 964 965 H4 Set Headlight Reflectors Brand New | eBay

Check Jaems post #27 all the parts needed are there

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Following up as I started this post

I originally thought about installing the Euro-look headlights with the looks that I love. The price was a bit staggering (at least around $350 each) and my imperfect car is not ever going to recoup this investment. So, as suggested by this forum, I purchased a pair of H-4 headlights from our host as well as some great relays and seals for the standard ice cream scoops. Wow! What a difference over the original sealed beam originals! Parts cost for both was around $140 and I can now see at night! Thanks to all.
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Puma,
If you are looking for the reflectors only, you can buy those from this guy in Germany.
http://www.daddys-carparts.com/en/electrical-lightning/porsche-911-912-930/587/headlight-h4-reflectors-for-porsche-911-930-964

or ebay from the same guy.
For Porsche 911 930 964 965 H4 Set Headlight Reflectors Brand New | eBay

Check Jaems post #27 all the parts needed are there
Thank you! I've been hunting around and it all gets a bit confusing.

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