Help me identify this exhaust system.

[orange75]

Hi all,

My car has an aftermarket exaust system that I can't find any info on. Maybe you know what it is. If so, is it any good or just another one of the many.

It has four chrome tips and a sticker on it that says "ANSA Marmitte". It has a nice tone but I wondered if anyone has any performance info.


Thnx
Ronn



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[Dave at Pelican Parts]

This is an early-style (70-74) Bursch muffler:




This is a late-style (75-76) Bursch muffler:




This is an OEM early-style (70-74) muffler:




This is a "Sebring" muffler:




This is a "Monza" style muffler:




And this is an early-style (70-74) ss heat exchanger:




Does your exhaust look similar to one of these?

--DD

[This message has been edited by Dave_Darling (edited 11-25-2000).]

[JP Noonan]

ANSA is an American company (I beleive) that makes cheaper reproductions of the Monza style exhaust. LAst time I checked they're still in business and you can get a 914 muffler for $120-$150 or so. Personally I hate that style of muffler, I think it sounds bad and looks cheap, but also like the AMC Gremlin so....

You need to see if someone retro-fitted the 70-74 style heat exchangers (pic #6 from DD's so thoughtful post) or you still have the 75-76 ones. It is deffinately worth upgrading to the 70-74 HE's

[JP Noonan]

ANSA is an American company (I beleive) that makes cheaper reproductions of the Monza style exhaust. LAst time I checked they're still in business and you can get a 914 muffler for $120-$150 or so. Personally I hate that style of muffler, I think it sounds bad and looks cheap, but also like the AMC Gremlin so....

You need to see if someone retro-fitted the 70-74 style heat exchangers (pic #6 from DD's so thoughtful post) or you still have the 75-76 ones. It is deffinately worth upgrading to the 70-74 HE's

[orange75]

Thnx to all that replied.

Dave, Mine is a "Monza"type exhaust. As far as the heat exchangers I doubt they're SS. They differ from the pic in that the part that connects to the muffler is a single tube going into the flange, not the two going into one flange.

JP, What I discovered is Ansa is/was an Italian company that made middle to high end exaust for a variety of European and American vehicles. Most of there exaust systems were for high end sports cars. It seems they are not doing that anymore and are moving toward OEM replacement cans only. In fact I couldn't even find an ANSA muffler or exhaust with a Porsche application. What benifits would I see from earlier heat exchangers?

I was hoping to here that they were million dollar systems and increased HP by 95%. No such luck. Thanks again to all that replied.

Ronn

[Ed Atkinson]

JP Nooman: Ansa was in business LONG before Monza and NEVER made copies; that was Monza's job! ANSA has been an OE supplier for over 30 years! Ed

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

Orange75, the exchangers you have are standard-issue OEM for the 75-76 exhaust. They have that crazy loop-de-loop setup, where the exhaust joins immediately when it comes out of the heads, goes forward, then turns and comes back. With the stock muffler setup, the left side has a pipe that crosses over to the right and joins the right-side pipe, then they go into the pre-muffler or cat, then into the final muffler.

The early-style exchangers go down and back, and only join up inside the muffler. 1.7 and 1.8 ones have a kick-up near the back, the 2.0s are straight back as pictured in the photo. 1.7/1.8 SSIs are NLA from what I hear, though they can be found used. The 2.0 stuff will bolt up, but you'll need a 2.0 muffler (of any kind) and a 2.0 muffler hanger.

The early stuff all differs from the later stuff where the muffler bolts to the exchangers--you cannot put your late muffler on the early exchangers or vice-versa.

--DD

[orange75]

Dave thnx again.