What mods are needed to get a 944 into the high 12's low 13's
 

Hey guys. A pretty broad question but what do you think. What mods are needed to get a 944 into the high 12's low 13's? Thanks for your help. I am considering switching to a 86-88 944 and would like to be faster than my Z28.

Brad

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1993 Z28
Moroso Cold Air induction Hooker cat-back exhaust Hypertech chip Hypertech 160 thermostat BMR LCA's
My Car

You mean a 944 Turbo (951) right? A normally aspirated (N/A) 944 is not going to do 12's.

If you want to get a 944 in low 13s high 12s i would reccomend a 944 Turbo. They are easier to get there with only a $2000 in modifications. You can crazy out a 944 NA to go that fast but you would have to supercharge, rebuild the whole motor, stroke it, bore it, port-polish, get new flywheel, carbon-kevlar clutch, supercharger, modified ECU, custom exhaust, cone filter intake or cold air, and weight reduction...lots of money involved...

I think the only way you can get that kind of low times is if you add a NOS system to you 944, but that's not a safe way for you motor. A stock 944 turbo can get a time of 14.2 in a 1/4 mile. Why do you want a low time? http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/biggrin.gif

I'd venture to guess that my 951 will run mid 12's judging from other quick cars I've driven. I'll try to get to the 1/4 to prove it though before making the claim. Basically you'll need a MAF and turbo. About $2200-3500 depending on who you decide to purchase from.

Erick

86 951

The 944 wasn't designed for 1/4 mile tracks. It's a race car designed for race tracks. You'll have to dump a buttload of $$ into it .... but if you're going to do it...definitely go with a 951....

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Chris

90 944 S2 Cabriolet

1) sell Porsche
2) buy Mustang
3) write "944" on back of Mustang with magic marker.

obin

another way:

go to a parking lot in which the spaces are numbered...

park your 944 between space #12 and space #13.

your 944 will be FIRMLY in the 12-13 area.

obin

3rd ALTERNATIVE:

1. Buy 944.
2. Find cliff.
3. Combine 1. and 2.

to get it to run to what you want...cars only got 140something hp??..lots of weight reductions..proper gearings...blah blah blah..blah blah blah..shoot plenty of juice(no guarantees)

another option is to buy a granny motor. http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/smile.gif

or buy a camel..a two hump not one(2 humps is faster)(j/k) http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif

Seriously, though, the bottom end is hefty - as big as that chevy. Run 2-stage nitrous or something... You may need to upgrade clutch (centerforce has a really expensive one), the halfshafts (to 930 units), and the tranny (perhaps a getrag 931 unit?), and play with the rear suspension for better traction for launches...

Just throwing out ideas here, don't take this as gospel...

Brad,

Before you seriously consider a purchasing a 944 Turbo (951), go find one and take it on a test drive. Z28s and 951s are two completely different beasts. And both cars shine in completely different aspects of performance.

So now go out and test drive a 944 Turbo and come back and tell us what you think.

Try these sites for some info.

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3322/

http://www.connactivity.com/~kgross/944faq.html

[This message has been edited by thamlin000 (edited 04-16-2001).]

if you are looking for quick 1/4 times only, the most cost-effective way to do it would be to get a honda and modify it. 300 hp pushing 2100 lbs makes for a fast car. an ugly, questionable-handling car, but a fast car nonetheless.

http://home.pacbell.net/nirky/turbo_120.jpg

I'm sorry fellas. I'm new to the Porsche seen. I meant a turbo. 951 I guess. I know that the Porsche is much more of a cornerer. I love going through corners. But I love going in a straight line also. Thanks for your suggestions and keep em coming. And as far as the Mustang comment goes. I said I wanted something I could make FASTER than my Camaro. http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif

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1993 Z28
Moroso Cold Air induction Hooker cat-back exhaust Hypertech chip Hypertech 160 thermostat BMR LCA's
My Car

Solution for 12 to 13"s

Toss drivetrain in dumpster
install v8 and do a back-half job with a ford 9inch..

The point is the 944 is for a track that is composed of more than a straight line. Its a balance between brute performance and the ability to carry speed in a variety of situations. The 944/951 cars have great balance and can do the job any day...

Me thinks you are on this post just to see what the Porsche guys will try to do to match your GM performance... or to catch us dissing your wana-be sports car...what you are doing is trying to mix oil with water

and I you do want to go faster than your current Camaro, try a civic

Try a Civic if you want good gas milage, and little commuter car. Didin't someone have a hyperlik for a company in Colorado Springs Colorado that made a bolt on supercharger for the 944?

Well if you are talking about a turbo, you can chip it, take your cat out (adds 20-30hp), change your MAF and thigns like that and get some scary amount of hp out of these things

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88' 951
2k VW Golf 1.8L TURBO
Reluctantly crouched at the starting line...

Give the guy a break, he wants a fast straight line 944, but he does appreciate cornering ability. Buy a 944 turbo (or better yet, a turbo S)slap a new turbo on with chips and a MAF sensor and he should be at 13 flat. I want a 930 that will do 11.2 in the quarter, now make fun of me : )

Keith
79 930

PS I'm serious about the 11.2, hahahaha (evil laughter)

Nothing wrong with drag racing. It is all about who is the better driver and has more horsepower...plain and simple. I think it is a great feeling kicking the **** out of someone on the street when they think you're the one who is going to lose...

Eddie Bello had a 9 second 911 that he used for drag racing...that was before he was arrested. (Oops!)

-Kierf.
--'79 Prelude.
--preludeparts.com

The Mustang, Dodge and Chevy muscle cars can thrash the rear end with the stickiest of slicks. Bolt on a set of slicks to our cars and try a high rpm launch, it's trailer time. That said...

With minor bolt-on mods, My 86 turbo turned a 13.57 @ 108mph on the GtechPro. I know I need to improve the launch. Similar trap speeds are usually into the mid 12s. I only made one run, so there's room for improvement. Our turbos either light up the tires or bog down at the launch or break something. HP is somewhere between 290 and 320 at the flywheel. http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/biggrin.gif

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Thanks for the support Keith. I am really serious about this and once you guys get to know me you will realize I am not here to start anything. I drive a Z28 now. My prior cars are as follows
2-1955 Chevrolet Belair 2 door posts
2-'74 Novas
'86 Silverado
'88 Mustang GT

I am not biased to american cars at all. That is just what I have been able to afford and what I have been able to get my hands on.
Back to the rear end mentioned above. What size rears do these cars run? I know the Z28 has a cheezy little 7.5" At least my mustang had an 8.8"
And how well do bigger guys fit in these cars? I am 6'5" 250lbs. Thanks for the advice fellas.
And if you guys really must know why I want a Porsche it is because I have always said "I'm not having a kid, I'm having a Porsche."
Brad (not trying to start anything)

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1993 Z28
Moroso Cold Air induction Hooker cat-back exhaust Hypertech chip Hypertech 160 thermostat BMR LCA's
My Car

You'll be please with a 951 in straight line acceleration. Trust me. You should fit fine in them too. I'm 6'3 or 6'4 and 200lbs and I fit fine in my 944. I've never had a problem. You just have to find out the right way to enter it. That goes for short people too as with any car.

Agreed, test drive one and you will know why there is such a following for these cars. Its not often that a muscle car driver considers an import (in my experience) and I think it pretty commendable that you are. Before I bought my 951 I went through the same calculations as you. I thought to myself...what can I buy that will run 12s reliably? Besides the 951, the Supra was about all that made sense. The 951 was less than 1/3 what a Supra costs so it was an easy decision.

I don't think Brad is saying that he wants to drag the car everyday. What i think he is asking is a "classification" question. When you're into fast cars, you break them down into classes. For instance, a Viper would be a "12 second car" and a Vette would be a "13 second car". A 911 turbo (new) would be like the Viper ... a "12 second car". These labels don't mean that you are going to drag any which car. They are a quick and easy way of standardizing hp/weight.

Erick

If you want to do high 12s or low 13s get a 3/4 ton Dodge truck with a Diesel engine.

Click on the top link.

http://www.performancediesel.net/Web_Media/web_media.html


As for getting a 951 to do that, I wouldn't have a clue.

The post above about classifications is very much what I am about. I love supras also. I like fast cars. It doesn't matter whose name is on them or if it has 8 cylinders. He mentioned exactly what I want. A 12 sec daily driver. That doesn't mean I will drag race it. I just want something in that class. Thanks for the analogy wolfrpi.

last month on speedvision they ran a program about a racing version of the supra. guess what engine it had? 6? 8? 12? no, it had a twin-turbo 4! lightweight yet brutally strong, it pumped out 500 hp/550 tq. showed it running on some german track, could have been hockenheim. very nice car.

http://home.pacbell.net/nirky/turbo_120.jpg