Smog Help!

Rabbit1445 · 05-29-2008, 09:43 PM

I've got an 86 944 that is having a hard time passing smog. Im located in California. I had the car tested and it was high on the HC and CO at both 15 and 25 mph. The NO was fine. When I started inspecting the car, I found that the timing belt teeth were broken off so the timing had slipped quite a bit. I ended up replacing the timing belts and setting the timing back to normal. The car has new spark plugs, a new o2 sensor, and a new cat. I took it back to get smogged and I had the exact same results (high on HC/CO and low on NO). The gas in the tank was a bit old. What do you guys suggest I do?

nynor · 05-30-2008, 10:03 AM

sounds like it is running rich. bad O2 sensor. change the air filter. get new gas in it.

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I have use it on all my 944 for over a year now. It give me better gas mileage/ more power/ cleaner air from tail pipe and I am using regular gas instead off Super.
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Good Luck with the smog test

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HondaDustR · 05-30-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabbit1445

When I started inspecting the car, I found that the timing belt teeth were broken off so the timing had slipped quite a bit. I ended up replacing the timing belts and setting the timing back to normal.

Wow, how did you manage that! If the timing belt on a 944 slips more than 1 tooth while it is running, it will bend the valves and will not run. You sure it wasn't the balance shaft belt that slipped?

Tidybuoy · 05-30-2008, 09:17 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble but my car passed the CA Smog check today.

I always use BG44k before a smog check. It is the best fuel treatment I have ever used. It's expensive at $24 for a can, but within 5 miles, you will feel your car running better.

That being said, looking at my test results, my HC was still fairly high at 45 & 19, my CO% was .03 & .02, my NO was .0026 & .0014 for the 15 & 25 mph tests. I'm thinking that these cars may run high HC as I have new oxygen sensor, and air filter. My plugs have about 10k on them.

Definately, try the BG44k, I've been sold on this stuff ever since I first tried it a few years ago.

Vern

HondaDustR · 05-30-2008, 09:23 PM

^ +1 on the BG44K. It does really make a difference. It is about the strongest fuel system cleaner available. Not only is it expensive, but you have to buy it from a shop or gas station that distrubutes it. You won't find it on the shelf at a auto parts store. But it's well worth it if you've never used it.

Tidybuoy · 05-30-2008, 09:28 PM

I get mine at CarQuest. It's the only regular parts store in town that sells it.

Rabbit1445 · 06-03-2008, 09:15 AM

Another thing I am experiencing is that the rpm is surging at idle. It will idle about 900 for 10 seconds then drops down for a couple. It then picks back up to 900 and drops again. What could be causing this? A vacuum leak? Will this affect smog?

Tidybuoy · 06-03-2008, 09:21 AM

My idle surges just like you described. It still passed smog so I don't think the surge affects pollutants. I beleive the surge is caused by a dirty idle control solonoid that is not reacting fast enough to engien changes. It could also be caused by a vacuum leak.

On my car, I have changed every single vacuum line, including the hard plastic lines. The only line I have left to change is the funky one that goes to the idle control valve. Even with the lines that I have changed, my idle still surges. I'm planning on removing the idle control valve and cleaning with carb cleaner - but, you really need to remove the intake manifold to do this. Which is why I haven't done it yet.

Vern