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one thing i hate about my 924s......

is where the e-brake handle is.........geez....they could've come up with something better than that.......
it's adjusted right so it's not like i get stabbed every time i get in the car.....but damn what a pia.....

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what's wrong with it?
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ONE thing?

Only ONE thing?

As I own the same make and model vehicle....lemme just rant a bit

THE dash. Pretty, functional, Prone to cracking BIG time. You would THINK they could make a dash that stands the test of time, like everybody else, but, nooooooo...

Where on Earth are my Cupholders? Oh...you GOTTA be KIDDING?

Interior by Volkswagen? (actually, not so bad)

MY inflatable spare tire. (proof that Germans do drugs)

The hockey puck clutch. (planned obsolescence brought to an art form)

Clutch replacement procedure (DON'T get me started...)

Brittle connections (why do my 30 year old electonics keep breaking?)

Crimp connections in the harness (revenge for Dresden bombing?)

Timing belts (why make something simple when it can be beautifully complex?)

Special tools ( collect them all !! )

"consumables" (I have to replace WHAT for PM every 40K?)

OK, back to the subject...You will appreciate where the EBrake is once you practice Bootlegger turns. (try at your own risk, I am not responsible...Period.)
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Only ONE thing?

Where on Earth are my Cupholders? Oh...you GOTTA be KIDDING?
I actually dislike cup holders, it just gives people one more thing to distract them between there cell phone and big mac
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I actually dislike cup holders, it just gives people one more thing to distract them between there cell phone and big mac
But..Where else will I put my Beer when I drive? You don't expect me to face all those distracted drivers SOBER?? Do ya??

And another thing: There is no place to mount my "Easy Rider" Rifle Rack !
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But..Where else will I put my Beer when I drive? You don't expect me to face all those distracted drivers SOBER?? Do ya??
well you could just chug it then throw the bottle out the window like any other good American would
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is where the e-brake handle is.........geez....they could've come up with something better than that.......
it's adjusted right so it's not like i get stabbed every time i get in the car.....but damn what a pia.....
bell,

Usually the "pain" is not from the emergency brake handle.

Sol,

Glad to see you have not lost your sense of humor after losing 70 pounds. Must be the "diet booze".

Anyway, just include 924S in the topic of this old post:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/365136-you-might-own-a-944-if.html

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It irritates me because its on the left.......LOL
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Grumbling is good.

Ahh..well we all complain a bit about our rides..It helps to vent a bit in between projects. The Ebrake really doesn't bug me. Upon consideration, I am not sure where else you could put it. There is really no room on the inboard side due to the propeller shaft and a foot lever would mean relocating the Fuse box (Shudder!)

Like so many things in our life we should just accept the imperfections and quirks. "wabi Sabi" is a zen train of thought that holds anything perfect has no character. Any owner of these vehicles will have to admit they DO have plenty of character. My 924s has converted all who have gotten a chance to drive it. I remember training my brother on the car and asking him why he slowed down for corners. "No, don't slow down, just plot and follow an apex and keep the power on" The look on his face when he finally got the turn down was priceless.

I am still unclear as to why anybody says that the 2.5 is not powerful enough. Perhaps theirs is not tuned well. I find the off the line performance and acceleration to be very good. I LOVE the way it handles. You can get them reasonably priced..so...just think of the hefty maintenance as a payment plan. so much per month or year and it actually averages out to not too much considering what you get.

As for heating and Cooling... I DID the heater core WITHOUT removing the AC pieces. I am running the ORIGINAL R12 with a new heater core. Ice cold AC and Blazing heat. I have locked down the sunroof and just pretend it is a sunroof delete. Fixed the Dash, and although tiny cracks have re appeared, I can live with em. My hatch is rebuilt and doesn't rattle or leak, although it looks a little messy on the top. Again, I can live with it.

Now, to finish my Water pump and have a celebratory beer and Cigar.

ParkerFya: I would not throw the empty from the car, that would be littering and in Texas, can get you into more trouble than drinking the beer while driving. Besides, I always recycle as it is good for the environment.

John: Lite beer is to me like decaffeinated coffee...What is the point? Although I must admit that in order to drop those pounds I have had to forgo quite a bit of the sweet, sweet, nectar of life. We all make sacrifices. Thanks for the cross post, I always get a chuckle out of some of those. We laugh because it is true and we can relate to the humor.
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Once I get the suspension sorted ill have to retrain my brain, having had my 911 on the track many times over the past 10 years has corrupted my driving prowess.....I know I'll be able to brake deeper now LOL
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The only time the e-brake annoys me is when I am working under the dash. I can slither my way under there without out trouble but on the return trips it always gets me
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That E-brake location makes E-brake turns durn near impossible....
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Are you kidding? Handbrake turns are easy with that brake lever. I do them on AutoX courses with tight 180degree turns,; no problem
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Viva la differerance

Bell: yea 911s are a different style. you will be able to corner and brake deeply with a little more on the top end. Acceleration out of the turns is a little slower but more solid. There are other subtleties as well, check with a pro. With a little practice you can go toe to toe with 911s but be careful when overtaking them in corners. Either car is a blast to drive.

PFL: I manage ebrake turns (at least I did when I was running tires I didn't care about) Have you tried down shifting and pre loading the front by braking while turning, then letting off the brake and yanking th ebrake? If you have nice tires don't bother, the handling and grip just won't let you because the suspension is designed to hang on. Same reason these things don't drift well.

IF you were into such things...there are a number of tricks you can do to proportion your bakes. However I recommend leaving it stock as that give you the best overall driving performance.
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fortunately AutoX is not about looking after tyres, more about shaving tenths of a second wherever possible, and handbrake turns allow one to get on the power harder and earlier on 180 degree turns on narrow tracks. Not a procedure for the street.
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I like the location of the ebrake. It was necessary to put on the left because of the tall torque tube tunnel. Not so much that the torque tube tunnel is tall, but the seats sit so low...

And petrol, if you were to do e-brake turns in my region... you'd get told where to go.
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De rigeur here on AutoX tracks; no straight to be more than 60 yards long, and must be followed by a least a right angle bend. Most courses laid out with at least one 180 degree turn with not much run off after the apex so handbrake turn is the quickest way round by far, and only the slowest drivers, beginners, don't use them. In fact the quick front wheel drive cars use the handbrake on many of the corners. Our course mustn't ocupy a space more than 200 yards by 200 yards so courses are tight and speeds are low,;I often don't get out of first gear.
Longer circuits are called sprints here, and use airfields or race circuits, and then speeds are quite different, with many cars clocking 140 mph on the faster tracks.
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I just noticed you're from Leeds..

Makes more sense now.

You fellas have Shelsley Walsh over there, be grateful. That's what autocross should be..
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sprints and hillclimbs

We have lots of hillclimb tracks such as Shelsey Walsh, Prescott, Olivers Mount and the one 5 miles from me, Harewood, which is really half sprint,half hillclimb because the first part even goes downhill to the S bends then begins to climb-great track but not a patch on the European mountain hillclimbs, or indeed your Pikes Peak.Formula 1 engined cars at Harewood get up to over 125mph. Sprint tracks are essentially on flat surfaces, and usually use part of a race circuit, eg Aintree or airfields where a course is marked out on cones. Speeds are generally much higher than on hillclimbs. We have a purpose built sprint track at Curborough,but it is under threat from housing construction.
Our AutoX, known as Autosolo here actually, do not require the use of a crash helmet,ownership of a race licence,because speeds are so low( but there are occasional crashes mainly due to standing water and leaves in proximity of kerbing.) and are open only to cars driven to the track. Sighting of a trailer means instant disqualification. we only have 4 classes, based on engine size, and due to the tightness of the tracks it is often the very small front wheel drive cars that win(albeit with well tuned engines). Entry fees are much lower than for hillclimbs and sprints, and more track time is usually experienced. The finish is always either to stop within a box of cones or to stop astride a line, ie front wheels over, but back wheels behind. Sprints, hillclimbs finishes are the usual timing finishes as the front of the car breaks a light beam( at Harewood it is quite often the back of the car breaking the ligh beam because cars often spin coming out of the final bend under accelaration for the finish line).

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