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mattdavis11 12-31-2010 10:43 AM

Shift boot
 
My hands are worn out. I bought the wheel skins boot, same as the the one I bought 17 years ago for my pop. I did not install that one, he did, I wore it out though. Installation was not fun from what he recollected.

Slipping the boot into place was not hard, tucking the leather and getting the cap on, was. I used some spit, a hair dryer and the lever from a large nail clipper to massage the boot to the point where the cap would fit. All three prongs for the cap were broken before starting.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1293769727.jpg
I had to massage the leather a bit more at this point.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1293769741.jpg
The pictures aren't very good, but it looks really nice. The fit is superb, nice and tight, just one tiny wrinkle. It takes time, but being patient pays off. I'll post better pictures when I find a better camera.

bxtech 01-01-2011 11:53 AM

Looks good! Great job! I've never personally done one of those, but I've heard that profane language is pretty much a necessity to complete the job! lol!

phoenix_iii 01-03-2011 07:33 PM

Where did you get yours from? I have one on order... I think I tried this once before and SENT IT BACK... going to try again!

flash968 01-03-2011 08:17 PM

i just ordered a brand new one - all of the ones i had seen made the seam pop up, and since that rests in the cup of the palm of your hand (fingers are never supposed to touch a shifter) it would wear a spot in my hand and be uncomfortable

perfect fit - smooth fit of the leather - it wasn't expensive either really at about $250

matthewb 09-06-2011 03:57 PM

Is the wheelskins boot a universal fit boot or is it made just for the 944? seems like it would need to be specifically for it or the chances of it fitting correctly aren't very good.

How well does the renn bay boot fit? seems reasonably priced? How well do the pelican boots fit? seemed like I had found complaints in the past about the fitment of the pelican one.

Any other options out there?

honerboys 09-06-2011 04:32 PM

i've done two of these in the past 4 months - after getting the leather tucked in at the top it is very difficult to coax the plastic cap on - i had a spare cap (in case i broke the one i was working on ) and in a fit of frustration i slammed it down HARD on a thick piece of newspaper on the kitchen table - well i was surprised the cap didn't crack and in fact had been pressed most of the way into the shift lever - a few more good whacks and it was all the way in - i used the same method with the second one - same results - so now if i ever have to do it again that will be my preferred method

ernie9944 09-06-2011 06:02 PM

Matt__ nice job but why go into all that trouble when you can buy a boot/knob combo.Early 944 listed at $77.99 late model $79.00 either brown or black.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315357194.jpg

matthewb 09-06-2011 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honerboys (Post 6239773)
i've done two of these in the past 4 months - after getting the leather tucked in at the top it is very difficult to coax the plastic cap on - i had a spare cap (in case i broke the one i was working on ) and in a fit of frustration i slammed it down HARD on a thick piece of newspaper on the kitchen table - well i was surprised the cap didn't crack and in fact had been pressed most of the way into the shift lever - a few more good whacks and it was all the way in - i used the same method with the second one - same results - so now if i ever have to do it again that will be my preferred method

Which boot did you buy for this?

redstrosekNic 09-06-2011 08:06 PM

Nice! I love the look of those boots. I got a leather boot for 5 bucks at a swap meet to go on my 924. Doesn't look as good as yours, though...

matthewb 09-07-2011 06:26 AM

Ernie, have you bought or dealt with the pelican knob and boot? Are they pretty good quality? I am looking for some insight on what to get and everyone is telling their story about doing their repair but none say which one they used.

ernie9944 09-07-2011 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewb (Post 6240770)
Ernie, have you bought or dealt with the pelican knob and boot? Are they pretty good quality? I am looking for some insight on what to get and everyone is telling their story about doing their repair but none say which one they used.

When I purchase mine i didn't even know that Pelican existed,that is quiet a while back.It was ordered from (Automotion) at the time & the quality was very good, in fact it still in the car & looking A1.Either you buy from Pelican or them the prices are the same.Btw the the shift pattern emblem is sold separately so try to save yours.:)

smokin_944 09-07-2011 09:30 AM

I'm about to order one for my 84. Is anyone familiar with the AGLA boot and knob setup?

ernie9944 09-07-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokin_944 (Post 6241058)
I'm about to order one for my 84. Is anyone familiar with the AGLA boot and knob setup?

Hello my friend I will keep away from AGLA,if you do a search on RL you'll find that peoples had very bad experience with this product plus the quality won't be up to your standard knowing you.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo.../coffeecup.gif

dmw319 09-07-2011 02:03 PM

i just bought a boot from rennbay, well see how well it works out!

Cocacolakidd 09-07-2011 02:20 PM

Someone has a boot listed for sale in the classified section - Special Sale

Tervuren 09-07-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewb (Post 6240770)
Ernie, have you bought or dealt with the pelican knob and boot? Are they pretty good quality? I am looking for some insight on what to get and everyone is telling their story about doing their repair but none say which one they used.

If you have an early model interior, the pelican one will look nice. I also got one from pelican for my late model interior, and it doesn't fit in as well.

djnolan 09-07-2011 04:18 PM

What do I have to order to replace a single piece shifter lever including pin, knob, rubber boot and leather boot all as one piece, in Burgundy color for an 87?

Both boots are shot and the pin is worn and the shifter makes a grating noise at times.

Cocacolakidd 09-07-2011 04:43 PM

Order from Pelican
PEL-PP-900562 @ $80.00 Late, Gen II, 85.5 and up 944.
PEL-PP-900566 @ $80.00 Early, Gen I, 83 to early 85 944

or Brown

PEL-PP-900563 @ $80.00 Late, Gen II, 85.5 and up 944.
PEL-PP-900567 @ $80.00 Early, Gen I, 83 to early 85 944

For 924S (86-88) order Gen I or early style...

This is Just for the boot and handle, order other parts separately - Pelican has them all

Only Black and Brown are offered in Catalog - call Pelican for Burgundy or other colors if available




This has been an UN-paid advertisement - - LOL

mattdavis11 09-07-2011 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ernie9944 (Post 6239981)
Matt__ nice job but why go into all that trouble when you can buy a boot/knob combo. Early 944 listed at $77.99 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315357194.jpg

I gathered it would be a great experience at $40 less. It was. The best part was being counseled by the previous installers (dad & brother). Vivid memories. ;)

djnolan 09-08-2011 02:57 AM

Does the pelican part include the shifter lever? I haven"t been able to separate the boot from the lever. There doesn't appear to be any way to do it. Any advice?

Cocacolakidd 09-08-2011 03:16 AM

If you are going to jump in and do your own then you cut off the old boot with a sharp knife (Easiest way is an Exact-o razor). Other wise Pelican sells the Knob and Boot already assembled (see in this thread above) so you can just toss the old into a save box.

ernie9944 09-08-2011 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djnolan (Post 6242694)
Does the pelican part include the shifter lever? I haven"t been able to separate the boot from the lever. There doesn't appear to be any way to do it. Any advice?

Fist pull the leather boot over the knob,then the inner sleeve (rubber Boot)if you still have it on,then remove the retaining spring,boot knob should slide off thet shift lever.To remove the the SL pry off the the spring washer which lock the pin that goes through the shifter rod (leading back to the tranny)be careful not to loose the spring washer.Last remove the the bearing bracket & then the plastic bearing shell. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315484407.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315484444.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315484478.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315484561.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315484618.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315484652.jpg:D Pelican do not supply the shift lever with boot/knob ,nobody does you got to buy it separately.same for the white plastic bearing shell (bushing).

honerboys 09-08-2011 10:01 AM

matthewb - sorry for the slow response - the boots i replaced were for my son's and my car - we are on a strict budget here so we went to the fabric store and bought a piece of black leather and hand sewed them ourselves - took about 2 hours each - total cost for both was $30 - my son's car is pretty much a total redo so i want him to get as much hands on experience as possible - they came out great

mattdavis11 09-09-2011 06:16 PM

That is awesome! Every bit.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/clap.gif

ernie9944 09-09-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 6242234)
I gathered it would be a great experience at $40 less. It was. The best part was being counseled by the previous installers (dad & brother). Vivid memories. ;)

Well I guess no money can pay for that kind of counseling,contrary to you I was all by myself when I did mine & the only 944 in a 500 miles radius,like mention didn't even know that such forums has Pelican & RL existed so probably the reason I took the easy way out.Then 5/6 after I bougth mine a good friend of mine did show up with a 931,it was the happiest day in my life at least I wasn't alone in my part of the wood owning a Porsche. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/beerchug.gif

djnolan 09-10-2011 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ernie9944 (Post 6242811)
Pelican do not supply the shift lever with boot/knob ,nobody does you got to buy it separately.same for the white plastic bearing shell (bushing).

Ernie, Thanks for the reply. I guess this amounts to converting from a one piece to a two piece setup?

ernie9944 09-10-2011 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djnolan (Post 6246681)
Ernie, Thanks for the reply. I guess this amounts to converting from a one piece to a two piece setup?

Not getting what your saying by converting to a (two piece set up) you don't have to convert anything just replace. If your boot/knob are gone simply buy the boot like Matt did & recover it or buy the combo booth /knob (less work & hassle) but more expensive.If your shifter feel loose & wobbly either it's the pin the bushing or the ball at the end of your SL which are gone ,but if needed to be replace buy both the shifter lever & the bushing.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315656201.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315656477.jpg(bushing)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/beerchug.gif

djnolan 09-10-2011 05:22 AM

Ernie,

Then I need to replace all three. Shifter lever pin is worn, both boots shot and the bushing may be shot, too.
I'll plan to buy the shifter lever, combination boot/knob and bushing all separately to replace what I have now? Where do I get the C clip that holds the knob to the lever or is it not needed?

Thanks for the reply!

ernie9944 09-10-2011 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djnolan (Post 6246723)
Ernie,

Then I need to replace all three. Shifter lever pin is worn, both boots shot and the bushing may be shot, too.
I'll plan to buy the shifter lever, combination boot/knob and bushing all separately to replace what I have now? Where do I get the C clip that holds the knob to the lever or is it not needed?

Thanks for the reply!

You got it rigth 3pcs ,the retaining spring ("C" clip) & the spring washer at the end of shift lever pin you (re) use the same ,no need to buy new one.:D

mattdavis11 09-10-2011 07:26 AM

Another option is to drill out the pin and replace it with a bolt and nut. I tend to do things the hard way, but it's light on the wallet.

ernie9944 09-10-2011 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 6246852)
Another option is to drill out the pin and replace it with a bolt and nut. I tend to do things the hard way, but it's light on the wallet.

Yes I guess you could, but there is always the ball at the end of the shift lever which after some 20 years or so is not new anymore.___to djnolan about that ball you want to slightly grease it before pressing it in the bushing.:)

djnolan 09-10-2011 07:44 AM

As for the clip attaching the shift knob/boot assembly to the lever? Drill that out too? The old one doesn't have a clip and pelican doesn't sell it...

ernie9944 09-10-2011 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djnolan (Post 6246881)
As for the clip attaching the shift knob/boot assembly to the lever? Drill that out too? The old one doesn't have a clip and pelican doesn't sell it...

NO DRILLING ANYTHING everything your buying is a direct replacement.Lord are you ever getting mixe up here(Please peoples keep it simple so the man can replace his shifter one of the most simple job to DIY on any 944).Are you telling me that "C" clip is missing on the shift lever (see pic) ? if it was the than boot/knob would have come out easily since that clip lock the boot/knob to the shift lever.If so and you can't find it anywhere else order one from Auto Atlanta - Porsche Parts and Accessories part#477-771-269 prize at $1.55, lol I hope someone don't come on and find that part expensive & tell you to lock it with a piece wire:eek:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315668151.jpg

mattdavis11 09-10-2011 10:22 AM

Drill out the hour glass shaped shifter pin, then replace with a nut and bolt.. The plastic socket is still original on my car. Not sure who mentioned it was a problem, but they're full of shyte.

ernie9944 09-10-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 6247092)
The plastic socket is still original on my car. Not sure who mentioned it was a problem, but they're full of shyte.

It's me & I'm not full of (shyte) if so I'm not the only one with time and use the bushing will wear out. LOL anybody who own a 944 knows that.Ask around & you will see the beside the pin wearing out on the shifter lever the bushing is next in line.If yours is ok glad for you but it doesn't mean that other are that lucky.

djnolan 09-10-2011 01:45 PM

Ernie, thanks, you gave me all the info and parts numbers I need to do the job. The rattling loose shifter and tattered boots will soon be history. Again thanks. Apologize for hijacking someone elses thread. It sounds like the originators of this discussion did a fine job restoring their 944. The fun of these cars is there all just a little different and a new challenge. All the best to everyone!

Ga 951 09-11-2011 11:04 AM

If you lost the e-clip that fits on the end of the shifter shaft, I read recently that you can use a 5/16 e-clip. Easily found at the LAPS or hardware store. YMMV


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