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Mike_944 03-15-2013 06:48 PM

Why is my engine so loud???
 
It seems obnoxiously loud. It was even loud before I changed the oil to 20w50.

What do you guys think??

Porsche 944 being loud - YouTube

mikepellegrini 03-15-2013 06:54 PM

Sounds like a 944.

Mike_944 03-15-2013 07:59 PM

The "whine" is normal? I feel like it's gotten louder.

Trevorlw 03-15-2013 08:09 PM

Whine?
Hm. Time for a Rambo project. Lol. <3
There loud. But if a whine is going on.... then there's a problem. Lol

mikepellegrini 03-15-2013 08:21 PM

That's the timing and/or balance belt whining. They do that.

By the way, do you know when the belts were last changed? You do know you have an interference engine there, right?

Gawernator 03-15-2013 08:45 PM

Sounds like a 944 to me. When is the last time your fuel hoses were changed and vacuum lines replaced?

mreid 03-15-2013 09:13 PM

'Cause it's a badass!

AaronM 03-15-2013 10:03 PM

Sounds like every 944 series car I've ever owned. Clicking injectors, slight whine from the gilmer belts, everything's normal.

If you have an older (1986 and earlier) car with the manual tensioner, remember that you need to re-tension the timing belt 1,500 miles, and 15,000 miles after changing it. If you haven't kept up with re-tensioning the timing belt that could account for the whine changing a little.

Trevorlw 03-15-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 7332004)
Sounds like every 944 series car I've ever owned. Clicking injectors, slight whine from the gilmer belts, everything's normal.

If you have an older (1986 and earlier) car with the manual tensioner, remember that you need to re-tension the timing belt 1,500 miles, and 15,000 miles after changing it. If you haven't kept up with re-tensioning the timing belt that could account for the whine changing a little.

My 83 944 has an Auto Tension-er?
So wtf you talkin bout. Lol

Gawernator 03-15-2013 10:13 PM

Um, pictures? That is not normal if it is true.

Trevorlw 03-15-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gawernator (Post 7332017)
Um, pictures? That is not normal if it is true.

Well, It did have the Rambo Done. Guy prob put that in there.
No Pics, too dark. :P

Gawernator 03-15-2013 10:42 PM

Rambo?

Trevorlw 03-15-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gawernator (Post 7332041)
Rambo?

Call a Local Porsche mechanic and ask him about a 83 944 Porsche Rambo Job.
Rambo =
Waterpump/Running belts/Timing belts/ All FRONT seals of motor/Tensioners/conversion to new water pump for removal without having to remove the timing belt/pullys/etc.

Its a big job.
Cost me 3,000.00

Gawernator 03-15-2013 11:11 PM

I am the local Porsche 944 mechanic, lol. Have a new Genuine Porsche WP, timing belt/BB/rollers, engine reseal, clutch, RMS, coolant and heater hoses, windshield, fuel pump etc (2011)

ernie9944 03-15-2013 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevorlw (Post 7332015)
My 83 944 has an Auto Tension-er?
So wtf you talkin bout. Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevorlw (Post 7332044)
Call a Local Porsche mechanic and ask him about a 83 944 Porsche Rambo Job.
Rambo =
Waterpump/Running belts/Timing belts/ All FRONT seals of motor/Tensioners/ (conversion to new water pump for removal without having to remove the timing belt/pullys/etc.)____ Your loosing me on that one, could you explain please (conversion to new water pump for removal without having to remove the belts/ pulleys/ect) Was your old style WP replace with a new turbo style updated WP?

Its a big job.
Cost me 3,000.00

--LOL man are your sure that your getting your work done at the rigth shop $3k for a belts/WP/rollers is pretty darn steep I'll say your getting rob here unless you had some other work done to it that your not mentioning.

No your car does not have the auto tensioner.That why AaronM mention that you'll have to re-tension the TB after 1.5K miles or so.:D

Mike_944 03-15-2013 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikepellegrini (Post 7331926)
That's the timing and/or balance belt whining. They do that.

By the way, do you know when the belts were last changed? You do know you have an interference engine there, right?

I just had the two exposed belts changed.

And im not sure what that is...Im just learning about these cars...well cars in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gawernator (Post 7331954)
Sounds like a 944 to me. When is the last time your fuel hoses were changed and vacuum lines replaced?

The PO said he replaced them somewhat recently. that was 2 years ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 7332004)
Sounds like every 944 series car I've ever owned. Clicking injectors, slight whine from the gilmer belts, everything's normal.

If you have an older (1986 and earlier) car with the manual tensioner, remember that you need to re-tension the timing belt 1,500 miles, and 15,000 miles after changing it. If you haven't kept up with re-tensioning the timing belt that could account for the whine changing a little.

I had no idea you had to do that...is it a big task?

Trevorlw 03-16-2013 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ernie9944 (Post 7332061)
--LOL man are your sure that your getting your work done at the rigth shop $3k for a belts/WP/rollers is pretty darn steep I'll say your getting rob here unless you had some other work done to it that your not mentioning.

No your car does not have the auto tensioner.That why AaronM mention that you'll have to re-tension the TB after 1.5K miles or so.:D

Considering that it was done by a mechanic, it was time and labor.
The Upgrades and modifications done so I can replace the pump later on without having to deal with all the Pulleys and timing belt. Couple Bolts and its removed.
As well, I live in California. You call and ask for a price in my town. *Redding CA* Good luck finding someone to do it. I had to haul the car to *Chico* 150 miles?

Gawernator 03-16-2013 12:19 AM

First, an interference engine is a more modern design, and more powerful, where the pistons can run right into the valves, if not adjusted correctly. So, if your timing belt snaps, you are in for a pricey and painful top end rebuild. Unless you're one of the 944 super heroes here, then it's probably slightly easy, lol.

Good, double check those hoses and lines. Vacuum leaks kill your power and mileage, and you really don't want your baby burning down. Maybe invest in a fire extinguisher and mount.

Tensioning is not hard :)

Trevorlw 03-16-2013 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gawernator (Post 7332105)
First, an interference engine is a more modern design, and more powerful, where the pistons can run right into the valves, if not adjusted correctly. So, if your timing belt snaps, you are in for a pricey and painful top end rebuild. Unless you're one of the 944 super heroes here, then it's probably slightly easy, lol.

Good, double check those hoses and lines. Vacuum leaks kill your power and mileage, and you really don't want your baby burning down. Maybe invest in a fire extinguisher and mount.

Tensioning is not hard :)

The Tension isn't hard to do what so ever.
Its the point of having to deal with it.

As well, I would just call a local family owned mechanic shop and they should be able to look at it without charge. Check everything for you, at least thats what a guy is doing for me here. He lets me use all his Diagnostic papers/books/etc. I'd buy the books but the price he paid is too much for my wallet ;)

Gawernator 03-16-2013 01:04 AM

I'd stay away from any shops not intimately familiar with 944's, and shops in general. Save money and do it yourself, the right way. You learn that way and it's the fun of owning a Porsche :)

You're very lucky you have a shop that is willing to do all that for you for no charge, it is not very common here.


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