rebuild question ?
 

I am going to rebuild my 944 turbo motor in a couple weeks. I need to know what to buy or what should be done in a rebuild. So far i have the
1. rings
2. rod bearings
3. main bearings

what else am i missing here guys..

Hate to tell you but you're shy a few items.
balance shaft bearings
balance shaft cover rear o-rings
oil pickup 0-ring
Front seal and race kit
oil pump drive sleeve
Headgasket set
rod nuts
rear main seal
oil pan gasket
camshaft bolt
rebuilt waterpump, thermostat, shim
belt and roller kit
loctite 574 case sealer
hylomar sealant
o-rings for oil/air separator(oil filler)

add to that the oil cooler seals, oil filter, umm I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff

Get a kit. Since I don't see one listed on Pelican, Zimm's sells one for a complete rebuild. Although I am willing to bet that Pelican can get you a kit put together. But like Highboost stated, you will need a ton of little seals and such.

Lets not forget that since we have the engine out, we should reseal those pesky turbocharger O-rings.

Yep, and while the motor's out put in some new motor mounts. Sorry but it's the "and then" and "while you're there" principles.

When in doubt replace, better to do it right the first time then to have to do it all over again.

yeah thats what i heard, "while your in there"... I have about 2 grand to buy the parts and me and a couple buddies are doing the work ourselves. We have a 2 and 1/2 week window. If i have the parts on hand. Do you think it can be done... thanks high boost for the list, as my name indicates, im clueless. This will be my first engine rebuild of any kind. Im not an idiot, just not sure what i will need...

i tried searching for Zimms but i couldnt find anything, you wouldnt know the web address would you?

i guess what i really need is a list of what is done on a rebuild. Then i can buy the parts. You know what i mean. Like
1. rings
2. main bearings.

LOL it would help greatly..

i found zim's and they have a hell of a deal on a rebuild kit, all the seals and gaskets, main and rod bearings, nuts, and rings for like 550.00, i think thats how im gonna do it... probably buy 2 new motor mounts while im at it...

hey another stupid question here. Anyone know of a rebuild procedure for dummies, i have the haynes but its not really clear on the procedure, it jumps around alot. My buddy has the shop service manuals but i havent looked at them yet..

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AFJuvat

Re: rebuild question ?
 

HA HA HA!!! That was funny. ImClueless,... please be carefull and take lots of pictures and notes. Thats all I have to say.

heheheh actually, that list is shy as well...

AFJuvat

Ummm, what am I forgetting? A mechanic to put it together? JK!!! Seriously though, what else other than the basics such as oil, antifreeze, and atf for the pwr steering, I can't think right now. Oh BTW, use reg. dino oil, not synthetic, just to let the rings seat.

Was it the headgasket the reason why you were rebuilding the motor or the t-belt broke? Either case you're going to need at least the exhaust guides, and all the seals replaced(comes in the headgasket set, guides don't). The deck will will need to be resurfaced too. If you need the head work done, let me know.

I was going along the lines of:

journals checked for out of round or taper
cylinder bores checked for spec. Rebore and alumasil as necessary.
Lifters checked for cracks or wear
blah blah blah

AFJuvat

Ah, I see, as far as parts go then he should be covered. Machine shop services are a whole different ball game. It wouldn't hurt to have a shop(if they're in good shape), polish the journals, clean the crank and oil passages and allen plug it. If there is debris inside of the crank, it will be distributed throughout the new engine. Same for the block, the oil passages need to be really clean.

the head blew on it and i figured, since it has 160,000 miles anyway, a rebuild cant hurt...thanks for all the info guys. I think the zim's kit is the way to go.

Clueless,
is this a daily driver? The aloted time you indicated suggests the 951 might be your reliable transportation? AFJuvat makes a worthy point. If machine work is needed on the motor this will put a serious extension on your rebuild. Maybe just pull the head first to inspect your cylinders and pistons for signs of premature wear. As for your parts list, the rebuild kits are the way to go for sure, but seals and o-rings are only half the battle. Highboost brought up the dreaded "while your in there factor" this is a lot of stuff! Let me add to the list of to do's as well,
clutch, pressure plate, and machine flywheel, throw out bearing
H2O hoses
vaccum lines
intercooler/ radiator flush
tools
beer
any performance mods?
valve guides/seals/springs if needed

Where are you at in VA?

im in va beach, its not my daily driver, but my buddy that im buying it from lives in baltimore. So i took 2 1/2 weeks off of work to go and work on it. Its not that it HAS to be done. I would just really like to get it done all in one trip

ImClueless, you can do what im going to do,... take no more than a 1000 dollars and get a nice little truck as a daily driver so that you can take your time on your rebuild. If your engine does need milling work atleast you will have your primary means of transportation. Just remember,... **** happens.

Ouch, I forgot about the clutch package and pilot bearing, might as well get that too. Keep digging in those pockets, your're right there and won't want to tear into it again down the road a few thousand miles.

and why don't you

rebuild your power steering rack, change the canister...
change your struts..........
Slave, Master..........
New Grounds....
Radiator....sensors....fans............


:D

Funny how it never ends..........

Nope - it it never really does end. But there does come a time when you exceed the point of cost vs. benefit.

(couple of shortcuts)

Easy way to check the head for vertical warpage: set the head on a known flat reference surface. a clean table with a hunk of clean plate glass works very well. Measure with a feeler gauge. If it passes that test, Mark the gasket surface with a sharpie or some other permanant marker. Take a piece of jewlers rouge cloth and set it on the reference surface. Set the head on the cloth and slide the head back and forth across the rouge cloth - without putting undue pressure on it - any high/low spots will be instantly visible.

(Note be careful to use JEWLERS rouge - it is used to polish gold and other precious metals because it doesn't remove any metal. You can usually pick up a couple of cloths pretty cheaply in any good jewlrey shop)

AFJuvat

i have a 97 montero as my daily driver. This will be a second car. I just dont want to keep driving 4 hours to fix it. So i would like to rebuild it in the 2 weeks of vacation i have. The navy is pretty stingy about the vacation time.