the Rodney Dangerfields of the Porsche world

[harborman]

I read this In Sports Car Market web site. I thought it was quite funny.


"Unfortunately for owners, 928s are the Rodney Dangerfields of the Porsche world. Even though each 928 has a full complement of statistically significant high performance numbers, most hard-core Porsche enthusiasts won’t give 928 owners the time of day. This is due to the completely backwards manner (at least from a Porsche fanatic’s perspective) in which the car was designed, with a quiet, torquey water-cooled engine in the front. Then there is the rather boring way they handle, with smooth and predictable understeer rather than the excitable hi-jinks the 911 is so well loved for."

I doubt the guy who wrote it was ever in a 928 let alone know how to drive one! He must like the "excitable hi-jinks the 911" has.

[Landseer]

Best publicity we can have.
Keeps em cheap.

[XLR8928]

Originally Posted by Landseer

Best publicity we can have.
Keeps em cheap.

Amen Brother!

[Pete R]

My psychiatrist told me I was crazy. I told him I want a second opinion. He said okay you're ugly too.

[Landseer]

Did somebody just step on a duck?

[Normy]

"Quiet" torquey water-cooled engine...

"Torquey"... that is for certain. As to "quiet", I'm pretty sure that most of Palm Beach county, Florida can hear me when I get on it on the on-ramps to I-95. That V8 not only screams...but it sounds GOOD. I've had people roll down their windows at stop lights and say to me "That car isn't supposed to sound like that!" The flat-6 engine design has one serious shortcoming: It sounds like crap. That engine design really doesn't sound like much of anything when it winds out, even with a good exhaust. I will say that the air-cooled engines had more of a "presence" sound-wise than the newer liquid cooled flat-6's, which make a whining note from all the chains and gears that are flying around.

No, we get no respect from the snobs of the Porsche world. That's why I'm not a member of the PCA. I don't need their aggrandizement anyway; their silly cars look good in my rear-view mirror.

N!

PS: I live in Broward county. That should tell you something about my exhaust~

[Normy]

Originally Posted by Landseer

Did somebody just step on a duck?

Have you ever noticed: You smell someone elses fart you are utterly disgusted. But when you let one out, when it hits your nose, you are like ::sniff:: Hmm....

Your own farts: They smell OK!

N

[Landseer]

Fed steak to a Newfoundland dog the other night, plus needed to give it some muscle relaxants for back spasms. Woke up gasping.

How is the Euro running?

[harborman]

I was wondering how one would be treated at a PCA meeting. I know a guy with a 356 and he really liked my car. Has anyone had a good experience at a PCA meeting? Do they really stick their noses up at 928 owners? I see many 911's here in summer and have not met very many. I am quite sure many don't know what the 928 is.

Originally Posted by Normy

"Quiet" torquey water-cooled engine...

"Torquey"... that is for certain. As to "quiet", I'm pretty sure that most of Palm Beach county, Florida can hear me when I get on it on the on-ramps to I-95. That V8 not only screams...but it sounds GOOD. I've had people roll down their windows at stop lights and say to me "That car isn't supposed to sound like that!" The flat-6 engine design has one serious shortcoming: It sounds like crap. That engine design really doesn't sound like much of anything when it winds out, even with a good exhaust. I will say that the air-cooled engines had more of a "presence" sound-wise than the newer liquid cooled flat-6's, which make a whining note from all the chains and gears that are flying around.

No, we get no respect from the snobs of the Porsche world. That's why I'm not a member of the PCA. I don't need their aggrandizement anyway; their silly cars look good in my rear-view mirror.

N!

PS: I live in Broward county. That should tell you something about my exhaust~

[Pete R]

I'm in PCA NCR region. Absolutely no attitude, zero, many have complimented my car. I am almost always the only 928 when I show up at things. One guy in a 911 said he would line up behind me at autocross just because he loved the way my car sounded when I took off.
After winning the fall rally I had to write an article. I actually took a shot at the 911 guys. "My navigator noticed and old school 911 heading in the other direction. He thought we should turn around. I explained to him that was a 911 and there is probably just a turn with some sand on it up ahead".. I posted my e-mail adress with it. No hate mail, they obviously have a scence of humor too.

[DanielDudley]

I always got positive comments on my S4, but it was a doll. I like 928s and 911s.

[Normy]

I joined the PCA in 1999 when I bought my 928, and at the one meeting I attended, I felt serious pretention. Most people wouldn't talk to me; in fact the only one who did actually told me the full history of my car, which involved a suicide in the drivers seat. I felt uncomfortable the whole time, and I doubt it had anything to do with me being far younger than anyone else there. I never went back, didn't renew my membership. For what it is worth, the chapter president was a guy who owned the best foreign car garage in Orlando [Zotz Garage], he races 914's, and he always treated me very well.

N

[DPW928]

The last PCA meeting I attended was when the regional president elect publicly stated the 928 rear end was copied from an AMC Pacer. Didn't attend another meeting or renew my membership.

[Herr-Kuhn]

I gave up listening to all that BS years ago. And that's what it is, BS. When they start harping, I tell them that ALL of Porsche's latest suspension and braking designs were first platformed on the 928.

It is rare I get the cold shoulder any longer from those types (most 911 guys really like my car).

It's like the guy I ran into with the M3...telling me how "sport bike" fast his car was, boasting to me...acting like I didn't know what a fast car was. He was pretty pissed when my car (on a mild state of tune on 8 psi) pulled 6+ car lengths on him in 0.15 miles from a dead stop. What a shocker for him becasue I never said a word to him about my car. Put up or shut up

Then once I test drove a 2001 M5 and the guy was like "you need to leave the traction control on, this is a VERY powerful car". I'm like, 400 HP, wow, my car makes that at 3,500 RPM. Nope, not sure I could HANDLE that much power. I'm glad I decided to stay Audi S car...it's way cooler and I can manage a lower profile on the street.

You're better to just keep a low profile and let people talk all they want. I find the M drivers somewhat worse than the stereotypical "911 or no way" guys.

I like having a unique 928...my car always attracts a pretty nice crowd at the shows and people who decided they didn't like the 928 years ago change their mind once they see one done up nicely.

[ronster]

Originally Posted by Normy

Have you ever noticed: You smell someone elses fart you are utterly disgusted. But when you let one out, when it hits your nose, you are like ::sniff:: Hmm....

Your own farts: They smell OK!

N

We have several 928's in PCA Redwood Region and nobody puts them down. I usually jockey for a position behind one on our drives so I can hear the great sound they make. The early Boxster flat sixes have on of the best exhaust notes of any Porsche six. Too bad you ran into attitude with PCA as my experience is all positive. Perhaps your being a fart smeller has something to do with the reason everyone shied away from you.

[Red Baron]

The 928 is going to find it's glory when Porsche pays homage to it whith the Panamera coupe. Then the above writer will be writing to a whole new tune.

The other thing is that the majority of 928 owners do not participate in the PCA. The PCA loves to see the 928 at events but rarely do because 928 owners do not show. Or when they do it is a ragged out car.

[Herr-Kuhn]

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[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by DPW928

The last PCA meeting I attended was when the regional president elect publicly stated the 928 rear end was copied from an AMC Pacer. Didn't attend another meeting or renew my membership.

I would have publicly stated to get used to looking at it because it's all he'll see at the next track event.

[Herr-Kuhn]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

The 928 is going to find it's glory when Porsche pays homage to it whith the Panamera. Then the above writer will be writing to a whole new tune.

The other thing is that the majority of 928 owners do not participate in the PCA. The PCA loves to see the 928 at events but rarely do because 928 owners do not show.

Either that or you'll show them what ManBearPig can really do...

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

Either that or you'll show them what ManBearPig can really do...

That car scares most Porsche owners regardless of their model....

Let's catch up Sunday afternoon?