Lol@the prices. But.. I got an inspection just so I would know exactly what I'm dealing with. He said the wheel bearings are the most important thing. Is there any reason he wants to charge $200 labor? Shouldn't that be a 15 minute job?

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Wheel bearings are not real easy. I did mine a couple of months ago in two+/- hours, but I have a press and a lot of tools that not everyone has. On your estimate a couple of things come to mind. Firstly the labor for changing the front rotors and pads and the labor for changing out the wheel bearings tends to cover a lot of the same ground. Secondly, the rotor price is pretty stiff...as I recall 2 rotors from Roger last summer were under $200. Also, your transmission holds more like 8 quarts of oil if he drains the converter, which he should do. And are the pads for 2 wheels or 4? If for 2 wheels he is doubling up the parts prices, not all uncommon in car repairs.... the prices on your estimate are not horrible, but they are "enough".

So do you have to have a press/other tools to do it? Or should I just pay to have it done? My dad said he's done it no problem, but not on a porsche.

And is there any reason to have a German mechanic do the bearings? Or can any good mechanic do it?

And as for the pads, I don't know. We just did replaced all four a couple years ago (MAYBE 1,000 miles)

Parts prices seem quite high to me. I buy some of my parts online here in Canada and checked out some to see how they compared.

2 Front Rotors - your quote $509. Online price $243 link

Disc pads - your quote $216. Online price $47-68 link

Sensors - your quote $44. Online price $24 link

These are Canadian prices (I buy here in Canada when I can as the delivery is quicker than going through customs from the US). I have bought a number of parts from this place (clutch, pressure plate, starter, etc) and have had excellent service. I didn't check Pelican, but imagine the prices are similar.

Rick

And free delivery on any order above $75.

Rick

I wouldn't call the replacement as "no problem". It is not all that hard, a press is not necessary, just helpful. The inner race is a bit difficult to remove from the spindle, I was able to remove both mine with a solid whack of a 5 pound hammer on a chisel on the parting line between the race and the spindle. The outer races I was able to tap out of the hub with a robust punch and hammer. Some instructions call to heat this and chill that to reinstall the new races, I have not done that as they are a minor interference fit and will readily press in using a press or using a vice with an appropriate sized socket on the race to push it in. It looks worse when written out than it really is to do it. Just not a drop in bearing like it is on some other cars....

you should not need pads again then...some body may be "padding" the bill a bit. Pun intended!:D

not unusual for a shop to double the price of parts used in a repair.....pretty much normal practice around here at least....cost x 2 +labor=your repair bill....:eek:

Good one tmpusfugit, thanks both of you for the info. I'll talk to my dad and make a decision soon..

Yeah I almost always buy my own parts. I haven't has dealings with this guy before, but I have another guy that I know does good work and us honest. He did my timing gears, water pump and timing belt.

I've been looking on the internet, and I cannot find what kind of transmission fluid should be used in these cars.

What should I put in an '82 auto?

And I read that you should not flush the transmission because it can cause premature transmission failure. Is this true?

If after 30 min, I haven't gotten a response I'm goin' to NAPA! :)

Go to Walmart and get this stuff. I've been using for awhile now.

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or

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There is a Walmart type brand too which works well too. Super Tech Dex/Merc

Drain your Torque Converter as well.

Thanks MPDano

Do you flush it or just drain it?

Covered this ground before, German mechanic means nothing, Porsche mechanic nothing, lots of 928 experience or plan on paying them to learn.

Stuff like wheel bearings and brakes are jobs I would be doing myself, but having someone else or someone elses equipment to do the press work.

Sorry Danglerb, didn't notice your response. Yeah I like repeating myself :)



Ok, so my neighbor just finished the job, got my rotors turned, new brake wear sensors (one was completely severed, possibly why my "brake pr (!)" warning light was on?), repacked bearings, and drained/refilled transmission/torque converter.

So he says it's idling rich (He can smell it!) and that's probably the reason I'm getting 9 MPG. By the way, I'm getting 9 MPG. So he said it might need the injectors adjusted and a full tune up, but he doesn't no how to do that as it's much more computer--y than he expected.

He also mentioned cutting out the catalytic converter (my dad seconds it!) -- thoughts on this?

He ALSO mentioned something called a "sharktool" or some such thing. He said it allows you to control everything in the car and some people have reported getting up to 28 MPG, and it costs about $1,000. I think I've heard of it.. not sure.

Anyway, is it possible (relatively easy) to do a tune-up? As nobody in Oregon knows anything about the 928.


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No more borrowing my parents car to go to school! ^.^

Sharktuner on a 1982? Good luck on that. Check your fuel pressure. If your Injectors have never been serviced, well nows the time. Send them to Witchhunter.

While your waiting on them to finish, do all the tune up stuff (plugs, wires, rotor and cap, filters, etc)

Yeah sharktuner, that's it. Neither of us know anything about it..

Ok, what/who is whitchhunter? :)

WitchHunter Performance - Injector Cleaning & Flow Testing Services

For the Sharktuner, it's 1987 and on. Not gonna work on your 82.

SharkTuner for the Porsche 928 - JDS Porsche

Oh, ok. Thanks MPDano

Any thoughts on removing the cat?

And does witchhunter calibrate the injectors or just clean em?

31 year old cat is going to be very difficult to remove. I would remove it by removing all the exhaust from where it drops down from the engine all the way to the tailpipe. Once it's off the car, you can inspect it for holes, etc.

Does your state require smog inspections? If so, your going to have to remove the cat and punch out all the insides and then put it back. If no inspection, then you can cut it off and have a local muffler shop make you a test pipe.

We have strict smog laws here in Calif. You can always buy a new cat by Magnaflow. They are very efficient with high flow.

Go to the website I posted and it will tell you the "whole" process they do to your injectors.

Thanks MPDano, no Oregon does not require smog inspections.

So, I got my injectors out and I've decided to just replace them with the Mercedes injectors. What kind exactly and where do I get them? Link please?
Also, I need the injector connectors and I cannot find them anywhere.. Any ideas?

See my video on this. It has the part number in it. I got mine at A Z A U T O H A U S dot com.

Would it be worth about $70 more ($240) to replace the injectors with the Mercedes injectors? Or clean my current ones ($170)? There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the ones I have.

CIS Injectors can't be cleaned like electronic injectors. There might be companies that say they can, but $70 more, are you willing to risk that?

So your''e saying I would probably be better off cleaning the original injectors that are in the car now?

To be clear. No. Buy "new" injectors. Buy the Mercedes ones. Now. Don't wait. Time's a ticking. Stop reading this. Order now. Your still reading this aren't you? ;)

LOL ok gotcha. But didn't you say that witchhunter cleans them?

Only the electronic ones. They do a great job at that too. When you get your next 928 with L-Jet, then your going to pull them and send them to Witchhunter. They clean them in stages, flow match them and they also send you a report of the rates before and after. Second to none stuff :cool:

It's easy to get confused when you're dumb like me... @.@

Especially when communicating online.

Oh ok, I see now!

Thanks MPDano! :)

Great youtube video BTW, about the injectors.

Hey, I just bought and installed those merc injectors on my 79 and here is the ebay listing for them...he says he has 29 left.

No worries either...just got eight in the mail and they are truly brand-new. only $220 for the set

Mercedes Fuel Injector 260E 280E 300E 380SL 450SL 500SL | eBay

That's a great deal and free shipping.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MERCEDES-FUEL...Bpg~~60_12.JPG

That's great. Thanks Boiseshark