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I canīt find anything wrong with our CAYENNE. It is roomy , fast enough , wife likes it , it always gets noticed and compliments are coming from total strangers.
I canīt wait for the winter and snow to arrive , then we can really see what this cayenne can do.... The quality issue is a thing I canīt comment. As I havenīt had anything to complain about.... Erkki
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Porsche dealer wouldn't come down in price plus the salesman was really snooty so they lost out on the sale. Also, the S we looked at had a broken AC vent, driver's side mirror and stained headliner. And this is a brand new car with < 115 miles! Got a great deal on a perfect Infiniti FX45 though. 0-60 in 6.3 secs plus pulls 0.89 on the skidpad so it's definitely a performance vehicle. May not be as fast as the Cayenne S on a lane change test but it's also $20K less. Too bad Porsche. My money was on the table but that sales rep was an a$$ and the car's fit and finish was lacking.
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What's wrong with the Cayenne?
I believe the Porsche Cayenne was one of the best new ideas in the automotive market, especially since it came from Porsche. I have always looked upon SUV's as oversized station wagons. I don't own one and I don't want one, but if I had one, I would want it to be the Porsche Cayenne because of it's looks, styling, engineering and mainly because it's a Porsche - what more could you want in an SUV?
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JD powers puts PORSCHE @ the bottom of QA. Is this the Cayenne or the Porsche 911. I believe all the german car companys are hitting the bottom in quality kind-of like the US did about 10 - 12 years ago.
US and Korean cars are @ the TOP for quality. The new 996 has 13 CPU brains , holly COW! I still like Porsche but i believe they have gotten away from what made them so great! (SIMPLICITY) BMW making a car (740) that has a 2-4 hour siminar on how to use the car! Most people actually want a car that does not visit the dealership weekly. Enough said , GO porsche! jpc
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I think the magic word is simplicity.
Porsche has gone away from it all across the range. Yes they have widened their appeal, yes it is good for their coffers but they are not marketing a product I want (GT3 &2 excepted). I want a small sports car that is the quickest on the road. If I wanted a Porsche SUV it would be no bigger than a 3 door Toyota RAV4 or Honda HRV. For European driving conditions Porsche has gone barge size.
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What Porsche Is
Porsche stands for great automobiles. Period. They wouldn't still be around if they still only made 356s or 1960's era 911s.
As far as I'm concerned they can build semi trucks and helicopters as long as they're the best ones out there. Really, there is no competition for the Cayenne. The FX45, BMW X5, and whatever that Cadillac is called are all car based vehicles. Try towing your boat or your show car behind one of those! And as far as reliability, have you seen the BMW's rankings? Terrible! I've owned two BMWs ... never again! Look at your average 20 year old BMW compared to almost any 20 year old Porsche. The BMW will be falling apart while your Porsche will still look great.
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Have a look at the quality of a 996 compared to a 993 or earlier.
Shut the door on a 996 and then shut the door on a 3.2. Which one would you rather keep? Porsche is in business to make money, nothing else. They are simply milking their heritage. Any vehicle they make has to be excellent, that is a given or the whole house of cards would collapse - but if most modern cars were maintained as well as most Porsches would they wear as well? I think they probably would do quite well. Porsches seem cheaper than ever today, the company is making more money than ever, but are we getting a product that is: a) what the enthusiast wants and b) built to the standard of yesteryear I don't think so. They are now catering to a more popular, less enthusiast and less specialist market, with GT2 and GT3 as a sop to older Porschephiles and to keep a dash of racing in the blood. It is certainly the correct business decision. It's just sad for those of us who grew up lusting after a real sports car.
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You know it is very interesting, when you read the owners manual to the Cayenne, they talk about recycling. There is a comment that goes something like this.
In the case recycling is necesary, considering more than 2/3rds of all Porshes ever made are still on the road today. It may be so and we may find that those numbers may change. But no Marque builds cars the way they did 30 years ago. If you love the older 911's, 928's, 944's or whatever gets your blood going there are many clean low mileage examples available on the market today. To me, I think my 94 turbo was one of the best Porsches ever built. That is why I own one. The Cayenne Turbo to me feels as well built as any early 911. The quality is abundant and the performance unlike any SUV available. I think they should be commended for taking the leap they have. To me it is no different then the chances they took by switching from the 356 to the 911, or taking a chance with front engined water cooled cars like the 928. They were first scoffed at, now they are collectable jewels. The automobile industry is changing and the need for sports cars is waining. None of the Italian auto makers can continue without taking a similar path or pricing their cars to only a select few. There is no place in the US other than a track to trully appreciate most of these cars. Why not take on the biggest growing market and show everyone else how to do it right the first time. IMO that is exactly what Porsche has done with the Cayenne.
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