Do I wave at Cayannes?
 

A recent thread got me thinking....

Does one wave at a soccer mom in a Cayanne? Don't get me wrong, I wave at all P cars I see, even the water-pumpers, but would you consider me rude if I chose not to acknowledge Porsche's flying brick?

I think I just wet myself.

Bobby

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Now that's putting the cart before the horse. How would you even identify one amongst the herd of look-a-like SUV's???!!! ;) -- Curt

It's highly doubtful your enthuisiam would be understood, much less appreciated. Cayenne is there to appeal to the "for the moment crowd" We should save the effort for those who understand the origins of the marque.

rjp

Hmm...Let me think about this....

O.k, I'm done.

No.
:D

umm ya. why would you want to wave at a soccer mom leming who has no clue what she's driving. She'd probably thought you were a terrorist or something

just my 2 cents

:-I Oh yes, I think you should choose to acknowledge Porsche's flying brick . . ..

. . .pointing and laughing would be appropriate. :D

only wave if she is a hot soccer mom

Now you know why 986 & 996 drivers don't flash or wave:p

How are they going to understand the origins of the marque if you shut them out??? Don't forget that this isn't the first time that Porsche has built a SUV type before, Dr. Porsche was a 4wd pioneer, 1942-1944 Schwimmwagens were designed by Porsche, they built jeeps in the 50s, and the is a Porsche built tractor in the Brumos Museum, and it has been on display in the dealership. I had a friend who did the German delivery back in the 70s, and out on the testing grounds were Porsche built tanks, now that is the ultimate SUV!!! Anyone remember the Porsche modified trucks that were the support rigs while the 959s were racing the rallies?? Porsche/VW connection goes right to the roots of Porsche, and has continued to build joint projects since Dr. Porsche built the first VW, and one of the least known, a VW Syncro crewcap that Porsche Motorsports built with a Carrera engine and Carrera brakes and Fuchs.

I ask again, "How are they going to understand the origins of the marque if you shut them out??? " With any luck, there will always be "new" Porsche owners who don't understand the origins of the marque, but that is why we need to welcome these "new" owners!!!!

So if you leave out the fact that Porsche has been building SUVs from the start, you are leaving out some of the origins of the marque!!!

Maybe in response to the R Gruppe, the Pepper Wagon folks will start their own M.I.L.F. Gruppe. They'd be worth a wavehttp://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/happy.gif .

You are a dirty man Richard;) :p .


Just kidding.

"We don't necessarily discriminate. We simply exclude certain types of people," --Colonel Gerald Wellman, ROTC Instructor.

And you think this is a good thing??

some people reduce right and wrong to a question of power..I'll give him the first shot/no problem..but I'm not going to pucker up a second time............Ron

Waving is not in my game I always wave back but never wave first. It could mean to many things and you never know who your dealing with. Not all pcar owners are enthusiasts. As far as Cayenne owners, who cares what people choose to buy! Being a 911 owner makes none of us any better than anyone else. I wont buy one but my neighbor may. I see AZTECS all over the place! There's an ass for every seat.

The AZTEC has to be the ugliest SUV out there!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 75'930cab
The AZTEC has to be the ugliest SUV out there! [/QUOTE


DITTO!!!

Unless, of course, one takes a serious look at the pepper wagon. Hey, at least the Aztec has a tent...I could go sleep out near trout creek in one...

Car&Driver (or was it Road & Track?) in reference to the Aztec tent said they should offer a bag for the front end too! :p

I'm w/Brian, "waving is not my game"...so I'm doing a LOT of states, and a lot of off-interstate driving, guess what happens..I catch eyeball view a young VW driver that is doing an obvious restoration/big repair on a real VW..and he gives me a big wave..things were finished real quick..start thinking/nothing better to do, and I figure out that real VWs/911 are family, WTF..I'm looking for other real VW bugs now..and it's obvious that a left lane rolling 911 is going out of it's way/big time because I have to slow down and cross into the center lane, to give a THUMBS-UP to a right lane speed limit air cooled VW bug..and it was worth it because I always caught a BIG smile..the wave became a secondary/ insignifcant response..and on a BigBig Ride strange things happen so be careful when you do yours...................Ron

I too want to build another air-cooled beetle, hell, I even have a stash of parts for the right one, but that is for another thread:D

Would I wave or flash my lights at a Porsche Tractor? Sure! But I try to avoid getting too enthusiastic in a dereasing radius turn that might put me in the field where its plowing! :D

I always nod and smile or wave at other Porsches. Often they don't react (especially 924 drivers). :confused:

Would I nod/wave at a Cayenne? Not unless he/she waves at me first.

On a side note: Don't you think the Touareg is nicer to look at? It's like the Cayenne is one big air intake. Oh and the Volvo XC90 is actually pretty nice. Except when viewed directly from the front. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/vwterst.jpg

I am gonna wave at every Porsche every time I see one. I live in Northern IN so my Cayanne waving will be limited to two or three waves a year. Heck I accidently wave at more people than that. Besides alot of Porsche drivers don't quite know what the heck I am drivin' anyway.:D
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I'm afraid I would be waving at every damn Suzuki Grand Viagra (sic) that came down the road :mad:

Too bad the name was already taken - the Viagra would have been a good name for this thing.

Jeb
'79 930

Sure, wave. Why not? They're driving behind the correct marque,
nicht wahr? If the badge is up front, you're ahead.

Think of the greeting as a missionary effort... you might bring
someone in to the light.

What are the chances Cayenne pushers/owners/leasees
have a smaller 'brother' in the other side of the garage @home?
Maybe most of the Cayennes liked their sports versions so they
stayed with the brand when they needed "soccer mom" wheels.

Be sociable; make PCA grow; start a Cayenne 'off-road' autoX.
We'll all benefit.

macreel ('79 924 ... I'll wave to any p-car, if I see it)

Damnit! I just waved at a Hyunday!

Absolutely you should wave.
 

But only at the turbos. Just kidding.


It is a Porsche. I acknowledge all Porsches until an individual proves that he or she is not deserving. I try to stay away from generalizations. Will probably be an interesting group. Track and maintenance may not be high on their agenda but there may be other common interests. I'm withholding all judgements on the Cayenne and the owners since I have nothing to really base a judgement on.

Just my .02 marks, uh euros.

Perhaps it is a Porsche.... but then the Porsche that I grew up loving is perhaps dead.

The company that threw caution to the wind and went racing with the 917. The company that dominated the world with the 956 and 962. The company that won Paris-Dakar with a REAL sportscar. The company that truely understood that racing improves the breed and PROVES that you build the best cars on the planet.

This company is apparently dead. Now instead of racing, they build SUV's to milk $$$ from rich soccer moms. The majority of Porsche customers today dont know what LeMans is. They simply want a badge that is considered more hip than BMW.

I will have a hard time waving at the pepper box because I will be feeling sick and mourning with grief every time I see one.

Thank goodness I am also a Ferrari fan and drive a 308GTB. Ferrari is now the only real sportscar company left.

Interesting.

Chevrolet builds the Corvette. If I were a Corvette owner, I do not think Iwould be waving at every Chevrolet pickup on the road. I think the problem is not so much the fact that Porsche is building a SUV as it is that they (Porsche) choose to put a Porsche crest on it, a crest that has a long history of road and racing cars. If it had come out with its own crest (ala Lexus or Acura, which separate tem from their lower priced and less sophisticated stable mates, peraps the furor would not be as polar as it is.

Just my opinion. BTW. I will not be waving at any Cayennes, simply because I am quite certain most (not all, don't get upset if you are buying one and already have a "real" Porsche) wouldn't know why I was waving in the first place.

Cheers!!

Bob S. Tucson AZ

Something to think about: Porsche is making a big financial bet on this vehicle. Porsche has no secured debt (tradable bank loans or bonds) - only equity which is still majority family owned. This means that it is using all of its own capital to finance this new model. If this model fails miserably, the company will likely be forced to write down large capital expenses. This means that our little independent company may be forced to tap capital markets further and take it one step closer to being swallowed up into just another corporation instead of the fiercely independent, anti establishment company we know and love.

Don't really know why an SUV needs to go 160mph, but would happily do an even trade for my 914 to find out... I'll wave at the new jersey and connecticut soccer moms, maybe my wife will finally be interested in my car fetish?

It's already a success. Autoweek says the wait list is 2 years. According to our host, they only need to sell 25,000 to break even on the investment (remember VW paid at least half of the development costs). With 25,000/year production capacity at the new plant, 2 years of orders means they've already sold 50,000.

That's only 4,000 units less than their entire 2001 production (986 and 996 together).

Read my mind
 

That ws exactly what I was thinking of.

Hahaha![


QUOTE]Originally posted by 930Chas
only wave if she is a hot soccer mom [/QUOTE]

So that means there are going to be more pepper boxes in the world than Boxsters in a couple of years? What a world, what a world.... :/

all it takes is about 15 mintues of skimming the 911 board to figure out why they woudn't want to wave back. they probably think you've got strings leading from your nose to your fingers and you're trying to put your nose higher in the air using this method :D. i had some friends from the Netherlands (none are Porsche owners, all are car enthusiasts) tell me what europeans think of older 911 owners in general and i'd rather not post the comments here ;)

honestly though. i've talked with Porsche owners from around the country and i've noticed that inareas where people don't wave to each other in general... Porsche owners don't wave to each other much. i've also talked to car owners from around the world and wherever you have an area in which people are generally friendly; people will wave to each other regardless of the marque of the car. i used to have VW Scirocco owners waving to me when i had the Scirocco 16V. same deal some times with our Geo Tracker 4x4. but if we go to another, unfriendlier part of the country, then nobody waves to anybody there.

it's regional.

sure i'll wave to Cayenne drivers. i'm a realist that acknowledges that they're doing more to support and affect the future of Porsche with their $60,000+ purchase than I have in my entire life.

matter of fact, here's a wave for everyone in case i missed you the last time I was on the road! SmileWavy

obin

Usually I can tell immediately whether the Porsche driver in the other car will wave back, whether the car is another 944 or a new 996 or Boxster...

... first of all, they look like they're actually DRIVING the car instead of just wanting to BE SEEN in it. Porsche enthusiasts (or any car enthusiasts, for that matter), as opposed to Porsche snobs, have a certain LOOK about them. I can't really explain it, but some of you must know what I'm talking about... like my uncle... he is a 60-something car enthusiast and the first thing I would be able to tell about him was that he was a car nut, even if I didn't know anything about him. I don't know how else to explain it, I just know, and I've never been wrong...