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carnut169 10-09-2002 08:05 AM

This will be handy!
 
This new forum will be great for all the Cayenne owners who like to do their own work! (LOL!)

Wayne 962 10-09-2002 10:52 AM

Hey now, don't knock it. The Boxster Board is a heavy traffic board of people just looking to do their own work, but not really sure how. I'm sure that there will be some (okay, maybe one) person who wants to do some work.

Anyone think that anyone is going to use these things to race (offroad)?

-Wayne

Planter91C2 10-09-2002 11:47 AM

when is the next book coming out?

"101 projects for your porsche cayenne"

prattrc 10-09-2002 12:24 PM

I'm too young to have witnessed it firsthand, so I wonder how the 356 guys acted when the 911 came out.

Or do you think classist snobbery is a development of the 911 era?

Don't kid yourselves and say, "Well, this is different. It's a truck..." 'Cause you know you hate(d?) the Boxster just the same.

pwd72s 10-11-2002 06:22 PM

Hey Ray, (sorry, couldn't resist) The thing is...if you want to buy a 4X4, for whatever reason...why buy this one? Other than the "status" nose badge? It's kind of like flaunting a gold Rolex, when you know a seiko keeps better time. Porsche has sold it's it's soul. In essence, the CORPORATION has decided that the bottom line of the next quarterly report is more important than having a corporate soul...Their choice as a Corporation. But as a consumer? I have choices as well......

Wayne 962 10-11-2002 07:34 PM

Geez, this forum is getting more traffic than our BMW forums!

-Wayne

prattrc 10-13-2002 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pwd72s
Hey Ray, (sorry, couldn't resist) The thing is...if you want to buy a 4X4, for whatever reason...why buy this one? Other than the "status" nose badge? It's kind of like flaunting a gold Rolex, when you know a seiko keeps better time. Porsche has sold it's it's soul. In essence, the CORPORATION has decided that the bottom line of the next quarterly report is more important than having a corporate soul...Their choice as a Corporation. But as a consumer? I have choices as well......
If I had $90K to spend, and wanted something to perform like a 911 and still tow a 7000 lb boat, well, then I'd buy a Cayenne. Why not? And who says any 4X4 will perform better than the Cayenne. Saving Hummers and Jeeps and maybe LR, I'd say the Cayenne will perform as well as any other off road, if not better. And on-road, well, it'll out perform 996's so, I'm pretty sure it's got that contest wrapped up.

But, aside from that, why is there a need for a 996? Why does one need a GT2? It's not a good idea to ask "Why?" when it comes to Porsche buying. There's never an honest answer to that question that doesn't involve status. There are less expensive cars out there with equivalent performance. Why buy Porsche? Think Z06 and Viper, for instance.

I don't think Porsche has sold its soul. Porsche the corporation never had a soul. Porsche owners gave the company the appearance of a soul. This kind of exclusionary behavior is what's forsaking that soul. It ain't Weideking. He's looking out for the company. He knows that lashing your fortunes to the most volitile market in the industry is Russian roulette. You know VW is just waiting, biding its time, looking for the opportunity to step in and buy 'em out. Which would you rather have? An independent, truck-building Porsche, or Porsche as a division of VW-Audi? W's for everyone!

And if that doesn't make you shudder, what if it isn't VW? Let's say it's Ford. How about GM?

BTW, Porsche does not release quarterly reports. They report on a semi-annual basis. They're sticking to their guns on that one too, so no Porsche on the NYSE.

M3Wizard 10-13-2002 11:22 PM

Anyone know what the lease pricing is going to be (or what it is right now)? I'm thinking of getting an X5, but I might hold off to check out the Cayenne.

old_skul 10-25-2002 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Planter91C2
when is the next book coming out?

"101 projects for your porsche cayenne"

1. Installing Extra Cupholders
2. Baby Seats: Permanent Installation
3. Where to Store All That Soccer Gear
4. Adding a Cell Phone Hands-Free Holder
5. Dent Removal 101: Oops, I Did It Again
6. Awareness Building: How to Add A Video Monitor For All Four Corners
7. Adding A Stair-Step for those 4'9" Drivers

and of course my fave:

8. Adding A Trailer Hitch (and Towing Your Other Porsche To The Track)

Moneyguy1 10-25-2002 12:51 PM

With all the collaberative efforts over the years between VW/Audi and Porsche, who is to say that a merger would be such a bad idea? More (additional) engineering expertise, more purchasing power, greater production capability, and more responsiveness to the buying public. Porsche, over the years, has become (IMHO) more insulated and isolated from the buying public. I do not make judgements on the Cayenne as a vehicle; it may turn out to be a really fine entry into a (sadly) already overcrowded arena. However, basic physics will prove that, despite what Porsche afficanidos may claim, a high centered vehicle cannot handle on the road like a low centered vehicle, and is not designed to do so.

On one of the other boards, there is a "wealthy" businessman asking how he could get his deposit back, but also claiming that the basic reason he wants a Cayenne is for the badge on the front. So be it. If that is his reasoning, fine with me. I have no need for an off road vehicle, in spite of the fact I live in the mountaneous southwest US.

The question is raised about build quality. Will the Cayenne have greater build quality than the VW equivalent? If they are both built on the same basic assembly line, how could it be otherwise?

Porsche is best known for its road cars. There are many who want to see the company get back into racing. I fear that they would get badly spanked a measurable part of the time. I would rather see them come up with the equivalent of the RS America again; a true road car with a minimum of frills, designed to be driven, back to the original premise of the company; quick, agile and responsive. Modern Porsche cars come equipped with as many creature comforts as many upscale sedans for crying out loud, and most do not lend themselves to owner maintenance. Now that they have this "family sedan", perhaps they can go back to their roots, building something that is fun to drive, simple in concept at a price that would entice first time buyers.

I had more fun with my 356b and my 912 than other models I have owned. Wish I still had them........

Just my opinion........


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