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hda 09-19-2018 12:38 PM

Can you help me confirm this is a scam?
 
Can you confirm I just won fried air and not an awesome deal on a 76 930?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-Porsche-930-/292731335939?ul_noapp=true&nma=true&si=zp5CT6cx0uV xV1GhPdyK2sS8nTU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt =nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Dmitry at Pelican Parts 09-19-2018 12:56 PM

Something doesn't seem right....

hda 09-19-2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmitry at Pelican Parts (Post 10187681)
Something doesn't seem right....

Right.

Called eBay to double check - useful like a fart when you are lost in the desert.

But they told me "you are covered up to $100,000! No worries! Buy with confidence!" uhmmm yeah

pmax 09-19-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hda (Post 10187690)
Right.

Called eBay to double check - useful like a fart when you are lost in the desert.

But they told me "you are covered up to $100,000! No worries! Buy with confidence!" uhmmm yeah

If anyone knows, you should.

Listing says the winner bought half a dozen Porsche's over there.

hda 09-19-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 10187717)
If anyone knows, you should.

Listing says the winner bought half a dozen Porsche's over there.

I don't understand what you mean?

Anyhow - does anyone here work at the internet fraud department or similar office? I'd like to give some headaches to this lowlife...

it's a scam.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1537393531.jpg

pmax 09-19-2018 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hda (Post 10187727)
I don't understand what you mean?

You were asking the forum about ebay and their business practice.

If you have bought 6 Porsche's on ebay in one month as the listing says, you would have done more business there than
every non-dealer member here.

hda 09-19-2018 01:48 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1537393684.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1537393704.jpg

hda 09-19-2018 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 10187731)
You were asking the forum about ebay and their business practice.

If you have bought 6 Porsche's in ebay, you would have done more business there than
almost every non-dealer member here.

Understand, the fact is that I have never bought a Porsche on eBay. I couldn't connect with your "half a dozen" comment

pmax 09-19-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hda (Post 10187734)
Understand, the fact is that I have never bought a Porsche on eBay. I couldn't connect with your "half a dozen" comment

That's even worse, meaning the winner won half a dozen other auctions and was a deadbeat in each and every one of those or you are not the winner as claimed.

Which is it ?

1979-930 09-19-2018 03:01 PM

I'm confused here. Why are you posting a Pink Slip and Drivers Licence?
That location is 20 min from me.
Did you send a deposit on the car?

JMS935 09-19-2018 03:56 PM

The seller ended the auction early because they sold it outside of eBay. They should’ve canceled all of the bids when doing so, that’s the proper thing to do, but they failed to do so. This seller appears somewhat new to eBay from the look of it, as their number of auctions is only 13. Maybe that’s why it wasn’t canceled properly.

hda, are you the high bidder? Is that what this is about? It doesn’t look like a scam to me, just that they didn’t end the auction properly. In the yellow box it clearly states “This listing was ended by the seller because the item was sold.” eBay is partly at fault here I believe, as they should be more clear in situations like this, which is why I see your confusion. Since it doesn’t state sold outside of eBay, and it still shows a winning bid, it kind of looks like it sold to the high bidder as listed. But that’s not how I read it, the car sold outside of eBay before the auction ran its course, and was then ended improperly by the seller - leading to this confusion. I’ve talked about eBay’s shortcomings before in regards to their car auctions, here’s another issue rearing its head.

I’m surprised eBay’s help desk wasn’t any help, everytime I’ve called them with an issue they’ve been very helpful.

I really hate the term winning bid, as you don’t win anything, you pay for it. You win a lottery, you pay for an auction. But in this instance that would’ve been a huge win if you bought that car at 45k.

JMS935 09-19-2018 04:05 PM

Here’s an auction that ended and sold normally....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-930/253754760794?hash=item3b14f65e5a:g:IZAAAOSw4v1bS-a0&vxp=mtr

See the difference? The yellow bar at the top states...”Bidding has ended on this item.”

The seller needs to wipe out all of those bids to clear up this confusion.

iluv911 09-19-2018 04:10 PM

I was scammed on EBAY perfect title perfect license and phone number- I did get re-imbursed ONLY because i purchased it threw EBAy with a buy it now DO NOT buy off ebay they wont do anything PLEASE be careful there is a lot of Russian scammers that counterfeit everything

hda 09-19-2018 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10187815)
I'm confused here. Why are you posting a Pink Slip and Drivers Licence?
That location is 20 min from me.
Did you send a deposit on the car?

Cant you tell that that is a counterfeit title?!?

JMS935 09-19-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hda (Post 10187952)
Cant you tell that that is a counterfeit title?!?

I don't follow. What is the scam? Did you lose money? I didn't particularly look at the title, just the auction. How did you get the title and ID of the supposed seller? And how did you get the supposed real ID as well? Who provides that info anyways?

hda 09-19-2018 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMS935 (Post 10187961)
I don't follow. What is the scam? Did you lose money? I didn't particularly look at the title, just the auction. How did you get the title and ID of the supposed seller? And how did you get the supposed real ID as well? Who provides that info anyways?

The scam is that I won the auction, the owner asks for money, he doesn’t own the car

JMS935 09-19-2018 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hda (Post 10188052)
The scam is that I won the auction, the owner asks for money, he doesn’t own the car

The auction didn’t end as it should’ve, it was prematurely canceled by the seller. That’s what I’m not following, canceled auctions are dead auctions. It’s customary to put a down payment on the car after an auction ends, just not how this one did. Were you trying to negotiate with him outside of eBay?

dad911 09-19-2018 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hda (Post 10188052)
The scam is that I won the auction, the owner asks for money, he doesn’t own the car

Do not send him money. He ended auction early. You did not win bid!

1979-930 09-19-2018 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hda (Post 10187952)
Cant you tell that that is a counterfeit title?!?



Yes. I just couldn’t figure out if you lost money.
It appears you’re just pissed you didn’t get the deal of the year on an eBay bid.


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juanbenae 09-19-2018 08:05 PM

this is no who done it....


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