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964 RS-clone - valuation

Hi,

I'm currently restoring a non-sunroof 964 coupe to RS-spec, for the most part (ie no seam welding).

How does absolute authenticity matter towards value? For example:
- steel or aluminum hood (or OEM kevlar)
- power or manual steering rack
- power or manual windows
- undersealing or not
- 77 liter tank or 92

Given appraisals are based on the market, how does one typically establish a value, primarily for insurance purposes, on a modified vehicle?

Thanks


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Are you building this as an RS-inspired hot rod or a true RS clone?
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Closer to a clone. I'm guessing Genuine Porsche parts wherever possible and closer to detail the better for valuation?
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Well if you are building to establish value akin to a real RS you will be fighting an uphill battle, it
isn't and will never be the actual item ..
However if you are building for driving experience , performance and visual impression you can achieve quite a bit if you have some ability and know how to source rare parts.
Placing a value on a clone or a tribute the former much closer to the real deal than the latter you can get some percentage of return on your investment but never expect 100% maybe 50 %.
How can I speak to this ? ,I have a 993 completely set up as a '95 RS Cup and its damn close ok!
It has a factory 3.8 Cup motor, no sunroof ,light panels front and rear , stripped interior , matter
cage, factory MotorSport centerlock hubs , original Speedline no hole 3 piece magnesium
centerlock rims, Bilstein Cup coil overs and monobal hats, Sport suspension bearings front and rear
RS short shift linkage, RS sport trans and engine mounts , Recaro Pole positions , SS pedals,
RS lower dash, RS steering wheel , RS manual rack , Euro no guard bumpers, RS Cup tow , etc..
I could go on but you get the idea, all this and my car is likely worth maybe $175K to 200k could I get it ? Not sure already been offered close , will I sell no way haha ..
All this to say just don't expect to get everything out of what ever you or a shop modifies ,it just likely won't happen so why have that expectation..?
I imagine if you want some peace of mind insurance wise you get stated value and use receipts for parts and work to get it to some level of modification , not certain insurers are real keen on go fast parts for the street but
hey doesn't hurt to take a stab at it, usually though anything that reeks of a race course they will begin
moving to the door..haha YMMV , Bert
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Well if you are building to establish value akin to a real RS you will be fighting an uphill battle, it
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Sounds like a wicked car you built!

I will never sell it either. Only trying to stay within logical parameters of a clean car for insurance valuations. Like you said, I wondered if Genuine Porsche RS springs & struts (on a receipt is just a part number) as apart of a 'restoration' would be considered more favorably towards a restored value or condition over "go fast parts" such as aftermarket KW's (even though these would be more road friendly).
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In my estimation the closer to factory equipped or even design of factory components the better !
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A true clone will command decent money a tribute is your guess is as good as mine.

Bert sounds like a nice build. I remember the days being on track with real supercups boy did they scream. I haven't seen a set of no hole magnesium speedlines in decades.
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Here ya go Tony ! Yes I like to think the build is pretty epic I am just that close to
completing I can taste it , soon very soon , Bert
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Nice.

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Please keep us interested geeks in mind, would love to see more and or the final finished product.

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