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Hey Guys,

I am trying to help a friend put a value on their Grandfather's car. It's a 1973 911T, all original, owned since brand new, with 38,xxx miles. It's Sepia Brown with Brown leather. Nothing too fancy but super well cared for and loved. No roof, has fuch wheels, 2.4T MFI still there and looks perfect and untouched. Looks like an all original car the way it would have come from the factory :) I've searched BAT and eBay. Don't see much in the old forums on the Bird and Early911. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. I'll post pictures after taking a look in person this weekend.

110-120K
You have to wait, but it sounds great and a perfect T is a great car.

I'd be curious to see how much you're gonna pay your "friend". I hope he sells away and he gets all the money and you don't get to flip it.

Curious - you say the 2,4 "looks perfect and untouched" yet you will post photos after taking a look in person? How do you know it looks original if you haven't seen the car - if your looking for value guidance from us, don't BS us.

I may be interested in the car, feel free to PM me with more info when you have it.

I'm guessing he's seen pictures plus it's a 38k mile, stock car. Chances are the engine is untouched. Only issue could be the low miles are because of an issue. You should know that as soon as you start it up or try to :) as for value 95k would be safe and if you get it right flip away. Not sure why all the hate on here for a good car sent into the market. Everyone who chews about this would not turn away these cars at a good price so why get angry at someone who finds one or two?

Damn, bunch of ball breakers here. Anyone who joins under their business name surely isn't trying to hide who they are or have any reason to be shady about their intentions. Harping on him just because he's a business is par for the course around these parts, unfortunately.

I agree with John, $95ish. An MFI '73 T is a pretty rare bird. Almost twice as many were made in CIS 73.5 version. Guys used to argue about which one was worth more years ago. I think they've kind of equalized in value, but if given the choice I would want the MFI one. That engine is really easy to discretely wake up when the time for a rebuild comes in 20-25k mi from now.

Yeah, I’ve never understood why Pelicanites for the most part are bitter when others can profit off of a Porsche. Maybe it’s all those personal losses on their own cars that contribute to that phenomenon of scolding those that do make money. Who knows, but it sure is petty.

If you're a business, why do you need the ruse of "helping a friend"? You're not helping anyone except your bank account. The "friend" probably doesn't know a Porsche from a crown Vic and has no idea he's being taken to the cleaners.

Hate on me all you want, I'll always root for an owner to get all the money from selling to a real buyer instead of being scalped and leaving tens of thousands on the table.

Some people want the help of an expert, especially if they don’t know much. If someone’s robbing old people of their valuable cars they aren’t going to openly ask for guidance in a public forum where the car owner could read it.

I helped my neighbour sell his and was in what sounds to be similar condition for $103,000. What is with some people on this forum? So bitter and rude, Rick you have a chip on your shoulder or a stick...well.. lol.

Hope I didn't come across as hateful, not my intention . If He saw photos he could post those as he was able to garner the originality of this vehicle from them.

Have never seen a 73 from NY without some rust, even with 38K miles, I bet I know what is lurking uptop at the rear of the front fender wells .

As stated, interested in knowing more about the car and may be interested. Thanks

Nah, your wrong on this one.

Per usual, it's both baffling and amazing to me that people put these questions out there without photographs or any solid information. The disparity in the real world values of these cars greatly depend on physical condition, and when these are put out there without anything to go on it's like a translation of a famous novel into a foreign language - just a shot in the dark.

Yep, it makes zero sense, other than the OPs who do that must be simply staging a "wild assed guesses" troll for personal amusement.

You guys are funny. Someone can describe a car fairly accurately and be provided a general value range for a car as described. The thinking that the keyboard jockeys here are the best experts to look at the condition of a car and assess it, via pictures, is just silly. It's almost childish at time, with a certain, "I'm not going to help you unless you show me pictures" slant to some of these posts. Assume that the car is being described somewhat accurately and give your price. If he comes back with pictures and something is glaringly wrong, reassess the value. It's not as hard as you nancys make it out to be.

5 digit odometer.. maybe its 138,000 miles? Brown on Brown. meh. Then again, maybe its a true treasure. No mention of how long its been sitting or why (accident? MFI issues?) and what would be needed to make it drivable (belts, rubber lines? fuel lines? MFI pump rebuild? suspension components?). the market for early cars is cooling, but could be $65-110K.

Why do people keep saying the market is cooling? 5 years ago a stunning T would have been $65k now its the bottom line price for a rough..ish matching car.

Maybe they're just referring to where prices are at from the peak of the market, which was more recent than 5 years ago.

The market has cooled, especially in the middle and for projects. We aren't talking about a bubble popping. It's just not overheating anymore and things have dropped 10-20% off of what they were a year or so ago. Still way up over 3-5 years ago.

Any photos of the car?

Please PM me if it's as you described,

Did you guys miss it's a Targa?

That drops the value down to around $10k.

Pretty sure he means no sunroof.

I'm mostly in agreement, but the real rarities -- like this car if it had 1/5th the miles -- would probably bring a new high number. There's a big appetite for low mileage, unmolested cars. The 73.5 T Targa that brought $313,500 this year, while an outlier, is illustrative of my point.

I thought the no roof comment was an odd description. I haven't received any followup info on the car.

He may not have come back with all the hostility and lack of help. I would just ring them up if you want to chase it.
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I was able to get eyes on what I now call Charlie. It was everything that was described. To be clear, this car is not for sale... I know many of you enjoy speculating and stroking egos.

For the others that enjoy seeing what's still out there and how cool these old cars are / were, I'm attaching pics. It was a real pleasure to see a one owner car with such low miles. The owner has documented every fill up, oil change, service, etc. He has a hand written log book along with receipts for repairs and gas :) 10 gallons for $3... It is obvious this is a proud Porsche owner. Please enjoy!

Long story short, I helped but an appraised price on the car for the family as the current owner is not well. I don't believe it's their intention of selling but need this number for estate planning. With that being said, of course I told them I'd be interested if they do decide in the future they want to part with it (insert peanut gallery).


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Nice pics. I hope you do get it. It looks nice.

Very cool car, regardless what the price is good place to park some cash. Clean car.

very cool time capsule! Interior is great...any shots of the dash plaques?

The Silver one on the glove box says "48 hours of Watkins Glen". Popular Zone 1 PCA plaque.

Great looking car. Get it running (always worth more when running), detailed and bam.. $100K

The rust coming through the quarter panel is very unfortunate for such a beautiful original car. The dash alone is worth 10K+ depending of course on what that thing is stuck to the front of it. For the planning of the estate I would think somewhere between 90 k and 100 k only because of the rust. If it had no rust issues it would be more than that.