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Andy Somogyi 01-30-2019 10:20 AM

Would a complete 912e engine have any value?
 
Do you suppose a complete, running 912e engine would have any real, tangible value to anyone? By real value, someone who’d actually pay money for it.

I honestly have no idea if this engine has any value to anyone.

This engine was semi-recently rebuilt with receipts and runs fine. It just doesn’t have enough power for my taste, that’s why it’s going bye bye.

I know there’s some clown on eBay selling one for $8500, and he’s been re-listing it for years. I guess he must not place much value on his time or shop space.

It’ll certainly be some time before I get around to pulling it, like 6 months to a year.

So I’m not really sure what to do with it when I finally get it pulled. I’d rather not have it taking up space in my minuscule shop.

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racer 01-30-2019 10:33 AM

It has the greatest value if kept with the car it came from the factory with.

Not many folks looking for an l-Jet 2.0L 914 motor. Even 914 guys aren't "that" interested in it.. but if complete and in good running order you might get a couple of grand?

You could also have it rebuilt by someone like Jake Raby into a 2056-2270cc or larger (120-160+hp) engine.

Given the age of the car and their relative scarcity (only some 2100 built, with many having since been "upgraded" - like yours - in pursuit of 911 performance on the cheap) if your 912E is mostly original, you might get more by selling the whole car and getting a different "project" car.

Rawknees'Turbo 01-30-2019 10:41 AM

That engine has value for someone looking to downgrade the power plant in their lawn tractor! :D

Andy Somogyi 01-30-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by racer (Post 10336830)
It has the greatest value if kept with the car it came from the factory with.

Not many folks looking for an l-Jet 2.0L 914 motor. Even 914 guys aren't "that" interested in it.. but if complete and in good running order you might get a couple of grand?

You could also have it rebuilt by someone like Jake Raby into a 2056-2270cc or larger (120-160+hp) engine.

Given the age of the car and their relative scarcity (only some 2100 built, with many having since been "upgraded" - like yours - in pursuit of 911 performance on the cheap) if your 912E is mostly original, you might get more by selling the whole car and getting a different "project" car.


The cost of a Jake Raby engine is more than the car’s worth ($25,000), and it would cost nearly that much for me to build the engine reliably to that power level.

The rest of the car is clean, no rust, no body damage which is why I bought it. I bought it specifically as a project car. It was way cheaper than a comparable 911.


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Matt Monson 01-30-2019 10:44 AM

It’s worth $2500-5000 from intake to exhaust complete.

Andy Somogyi 01-30-2019 10:49 AM

Would a complete 912e engine have any value?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10336842)
That engine has value for someone looking to downgrade the power plant in their lawn tractor! :D





:SmileWavy :D :D :D LOL, yeah, I totally agree with you.



But there's a small community that feverishly likes these Type4 engines. I have no idea if any of them have any money to buy one though.

Matt Monson 01-30-2019 12:09 PM

912 owners put them in early cars. You want to sell it complete including tin and mount. It’s a pretty easy swap into an early car.

pmax 01-30-2019 12:18 PM

Engine looks clean. A/C works too ? Compressor looks new.

Perhaps, Raw can use it in his party bus.

SalParadise 01-30-2019 02:33 PM

I can't imagine the HP that shiny AC compressor saps off that anemic engine.

Jrboulder 01-30-2019 02:42 PM

The engine serial number is on the fan shroud. Hold onto that and sell the rest.

thamlin000 01-30-2019 02:55 PM

The matching numbers 912e fan shroud!

I had an extra fan shroud that was included with my old 912e purchase. A few years later, the guy that sold the shroud to my car’s previous owner tracked me down to get it back since it had his car’s engine serial number.

BK911 01-30-2019 03:29 PM

I'd be interested if you decide to sell soon, rather than 6+ months from now.
Price would depend on leak down numbers.

Rawknees'Turbo 01-30-2019 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SalParadise (Post 10337241)
I can't imagine the HP that shiny AC compressor saps off that anemic engine.

Approximately 4-6 hp consumed by that style compressor, so in other works, 1/3 of that engine's juice!


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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 10337006)
Engine looks clean. A/C works too ? Compressor looks new.

Perhaps, Raw can use it in his party bus.

I'd need about 10 of those compressors to cool my party bus, and the same number of that type engine to move the pimpin' party around (not because of a heffer factor either, and shiit! :eek:), pNutz!

PD41 01-31-2019 10:16 AM

Defiantly save the engine if possible or at least the shroud. Not collectable yet but you never know.
I paid $600 for a 912 back in the day. Good drivers were $2500

Wish I could find the original motor for my 53.
The original motor just popped up for my 65 356 coupe for $3000 and it is seized.

YOU NEVER KNOW about the future. Your car could be worth $50k in 15 years with the original motor or $35k with a 911 motor in it ? Got a Crystal Ball. I paid $850 for my my 53 in the 90's.

PD41 01-31-2019 10:28 AM

BTW so many on Pelican are just interested in speed, turbos ect.
The dumbass that modified my torsion for IRS wanted a 911 motor 53 Pre A WTG.
Got no problem with outlaws just chop up some POS.

Rawknees'Turbo 01-31-2019 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PD41 (Post 10338364)
BTW so many on Pelican are just interested in speed, turbos ect.
The dumbass that modified my torsion for IRS wanted a 911 motor 53 Pre A WTG.
Got no problem with outlaws just chop up some POS.

An interest in speed and power seems about as natural as it gets for members of a sports car forum, and all machines are ripe for cutting (they're only machines, after all, but if they could talk, even the slow and ill handling ones would wish to be made more powerful and nimble).

Jrboulder 01-31-2019 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10338383)
An interest in speed and power seems about as natural as it gets for members of a sports car forum, and all machines are ripe for cutting (they're only machines, after all, but if they could talk, even the slow and ill handling ones would wish to be made more powerful and nimble).

Speed and power is so easy to come by these days I just can't see someone buying a torsion bar n/a 911 to go fast. If I put a 3.2 in my 912E it would still be the slowest of my 3 cars.

Rawknees'Turbo 01-31-2019 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jrboulder (Post 10338424)
Speed and power is so easy to come by these days I just can't see someone buying a torsion bar n/a 911 to go fast. If I put a 3.2 in my 912E it would still be the slowest of my 3 cars.

For some, myself included, the challenge of making a vintage car fast is actually a big part of the fun in ownening one of these machines - just look at the good time that dude is currently having who is tubocharging his 2.7 (thread in 930 forum).

PD41 01-31-2019 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10338383)
An interest in speed and power seems about as natural as it gets for members of a sports car forum

Not sure where you learned sports cars have to be fast ?

My brother has 3 Bug Eye Sprites. He loves them
A 2017 Honda Civic would beat would beat most pre mid 70's sports cars in
the 1/4 mile and in the corners.

Is a Honda Civic now a sports car ? WTF is happening, Frikin Rice Burners !

2017 Honda Civic Si Coupe 0-60 mph 6.3 | Quarter mile 14.8
1981 Porsche 911 SC 0-60 mph 6.6 | Quarter mile 15.0
1955 Porsche 550 Spyder 0-60 mph 7.0 | Quarter mile 16.2

This website is pretty cool. Check it out.

https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/porsche-0-60-mph-times/

Mocker 01-31-2019 01:29 PM

^ Thanks for the link...you forgot one:

1986 Porsche 911 Turbo 0-60 mph 4.9 | Quarter mile 13.2


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