back dated using fiberglass?
 

My car is all metal wide body fenders. I'm in the middle of backdating it and considering glass front rsr fenders with the light boxes already glassed in.
Would this bother any of you if buying it and maybe reduce interest? Does it reduce value or just make it less desirable? I wouldn't be caring if I were to keep this car forever but I plan at some point to let her go.

My opinion is less value than all steel

I know it reduces value but think it would make it less desirable also.

Metal.

I’d pass as soon as I saw glass.
Ymmv.

That’s kind of what I was thinking too but researching I found a backdated 85’ with front fenders in glass sell for $82k and it was a nice car but....

Less desirable = reduced value

There’s a butt for every seat.
But you are reducing the potential pool. Which usually means less competition. Which in turn means less value.
JMO.

Metal is worth it.

My car has 930 steel flares in the rear but I went FG fenders up front for an RSR look. Most people use steel 930 flares up front but the profile of the flare is wrong. The RSR has a more square look. Here's a nice one at $100k current bid so far that has FG panels, but agreed that some people may not like the glass.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-911e-coupe-6/

Preference, value and selling price ranking (IMO of course)

1) Steel
2) All fiberglass
3) Fiberglass bonded to steel


In the case of category three its always a deal killer. Steel and fiberglass expand and contract at different rates. No way for the "bonded" to steel parts to remain in tact for long years. I would avoid it like the plague.

good info.

I've been anti-fiberglass for decades. But recently a few RSR looks on BAT have brought very strong prices despite fiberglass flares & front body panels.

The big issue with fiberglass is that it's difficult to make it look like it's not fiberglass. But carbon fiber seems like it's a better alternative to produce a great result. It works pretty well for Singer.

Carbon fiber is far from fiberglass.

Depends. If it's autoclaved 'dry' carbon fiber, it's super strong and light, but there's a lot of lesser quality "carbon fiber" out there.

I do think if you are back dating to an R replica the consideration of fiberglass in the project is different.

I’m planing on doing an R style car, minus the short wheel base, with all fiberglass.
I have the full EB Motorsports kit. Only metal will be the rear quarters.
Light weight is the goal. I don’t think the fiberglass will hurt the value. Oh wait; I don’t care about the resale value.


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Novel approach

All I am going to say that all of Rauh Welt cars are glass. His cars do not have any issues selling over $100k.

Porsche 911R tribute cars are glass as well. They seem to be selling around $90k-$110k.

Porshce made the 911R with glass.

If the car is built right no one have an issue with it.

I was really mostly speaking of fenders and light box areas. Those are not glass I don't think?

liberating approach for those who just want to build a car they really dig.

and a perspective i admit i subscribe to.

they are just cars, they are here for our amusement after all...

Exactly what I did. I doubt anyone can tell that the car has fiberglass panels just by looking at it. The EB products are great, although the bumpers needed a fair bit of work to get them to blend to the fenders well. A real R is light. And that’s why the factory used fiberglass panels. Except now the technology has advanced 50 years. EB has some great stuff. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561562120.jpg

And don’t forget Jack Olsen’s car (he used fiberglass and the car looks fantastic):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/272118-black-beauty-ii.html



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561570119.jpg

hmmmmmm. Ya

Nice inspiration pic. Looks awesome!


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I think where fiberglass got a bad rap was that people would buy the parts... expect to bolt them on and fit like a factory part. The fiberglass parts will always need work. Sometimes more than a steel part in terms of hours. But once you get the part to fit right, it shouldn’t detract from the value. IMO

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561576110.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561576166.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561576214.jpg

I already have a glass hood and decklid not to mention front and rear bumpers. Might as well be glass I guess. Yesteday I saw the glass fendered green rsr sell for $170k on BAT.

Not to mention that everyone with a duck tail is sporting a fiberglass piece.

Both of mine have metal bases:Dhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561596132.jpg

I don’t want glass fenders on my own car. Decklids, bumpers, and hoods are more negotiable. There’s a balancing act there, literally. The nose of a 911 is already light. I’l pull weight at the ends. But not the fenders if I can help it.

I’ve thought about that too. I’ve lost some weight out back with this backdate though with the loss of the metal deck lid and turbo tail. I don’t know but I don’t think I’m going to notice 10lbs.

I notice the difference between a full tank of gas and empty. Ymmv.

So do I.

I do as well..

I’m doing a LWB R type also, but didn’t like the EB Motorsports rear bumper I received. Too thin and flimsy for the street, and the part was laid up with mat, not cloth. It’s already deformed and cracked. I went with Getty parts for the rest of the car. If your going to go with glass, you have to go with the best, otherwise you’ll spend tons of more time fitting and finishing. I’m most likely going to keep the doors steel for safety. Just have a roll bar. Wish someone made steel R rear flairs.

Match the fenders with a glass roof and doors and now everything is lighter. Balance.
I'd like to do the rear quarters too, but for some reason THAT seems like too much work. :D

There is one instance where I prefer glass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWsW7xbKmjY