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Matt Monson 07-17-2019 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10527132)

I was kind of pissed when they painted it.


I too hate wiring, even though I've done a ton of it. My first Subaru swap and harness merge took me about 100 hours. I got it down to 45-50 hours all in after a few tries, but it was never easy and definitely not pleasant.

juanbenae 07-17-2019 07:59 AM

^^^^ it has recently, in the last few years under new ownership been decked out as seen in this photo. prior to this it was much more understated to the point unless you were looking for it you'd have likely not noticed it from the freeway. the bright colors and yard art has the city of Hillsborough filing suit against the current owner for what she's done to it as a "nuisance/eyesore" after she ignored over a years worth of written warnings and citation.

Matt Monson 07-17-2019 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10527188)
^^^^ it has recently, in the last few years under new ownership been decked out as seen in this photo. prior to this it was much more understated to the point unless you were looking for it you'd have likely not noticed it from the freeway. the bright colors and yard art has the city of Hillsborough filing suit against the current owner for what she's done to it as a "nuisance/eyesore" after she ignored over a years worth of written warnings and citation.

Yep. Don't forget I grew up in San Mateo County and only left in 2001. When I was a kid my top speed run was right near that on 280. First place I ever broke 100mph in a car.

I am familiar with the current situation. I think she's a doof.

juanbenae 07-17-2019 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10527194)
Yep. Don't forget I grew up in San Mateo County and only left in 2001. When I was a kid my top speed run was right near that on 280. First place I ever broke 100mph in a car.

I am familiar with the current situation. I think she's a doof.


a high school friend who had a very promising future got addicted to opioids and ultimately jumped from the bridge/overpass there to his death also reached 100mph at that local on 280. the only reason they found him so promptly was he left his car on the 280 bridge the night he jumped. they found him in the brush area below the next morning.

Matt Monson 07-17-2019 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10527222)
a high school friend who had a very promising future got addicted to opioids and ultimately jumped from the bridge/overpass there to his death also reached 100mph at that local on 280. the only reason they found him so promptly was he left his car on the 280 bridge the night he jumped. they found him in the brush area below the next morning.

Addiction is a terrible and often deadly disease. Sorry it touched you close to home. I know the pain all too well. :(

Ryan_Cunningham 07-17-2019 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10521195)
The pink & purple one?!?! :eek:


Funny comparo regarding car peeps that don't know about the mechanicals of their machines; many small aircraft pilots don't, either (this floored me when I first realized it, considering that you are betting your ass on that machine each and every time to get in it - seems like it would be wise to know how it works, and what can go wrong - at least the basics). For example, a mid twenties guy was a student pilot at the small airport I work at, and the airport trainer plane that he was getting his schooling in was due for it's 100 hours service and inspection (which I was going to perform - the service part, with another mechanic doing the final inspection), so the young guy wanted to come by and check out the aircraft with its engine cowling and interior removed, and so forth. When he showed up, I was working on the engine (doing a cylinder leakage test), so he walked over, looked around the engine bay for a while, then pointed to the vacuum pump and asked me if that was the alternator - the vac pump is very small in comparison, gear driven (no belt, unlike the alternator - the drive mechanism is totally hidden when installed), and is on the opposite end of the engine from the alt. (vac pump is up high, on the firewall side, and the alternator is directly behind the prop). I did not laugh or say anything smartass (except silently to myself :D), but it struck me as absurd that he did not know what a component as critical as the alternator was, or where it is located.

You don’t have to be able to build an airplane to be a good pilot. In fact the ones who probably could tended to be the worst.

You memorize procedures for emergencies, if you can’t do anything about it from the cockpit it doesn’t provide you much benefit to have an in depth knowledge of it.

Incredibly entertaining thread btw.

ADDvanced 07-17-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JMS935 (Post 10526397)
Exactly. Just because he took it to an extreme, nobody else seems to qualify as an enthusiast to him unless they can make those same claims.

I was as equally interested in cars growing up, and now that I am grown up, I’m collecting the Porsches that were on the posters all over my walls as a teenager. How much more of an enthusiast do you need to be?

Did I have any interest in learning how to work on a car back then? No. None. Do I have any now? Nope. None. That doesn’t make me any less of an enthusiast, well unless you’re looking at it from Addvanced’s point of view.

Yes it does. You don't know how anything works. Your only experience will be from behind the seat. You won't be able to diagnose anything, you won't be able to improve anything, and you will rely on others.

You COULD choose to start learning, but you choose not to. You're less of an enthusiast because you're only participating in SOME of it. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10526984)
I’m gonna need to turn in my enthusiast card too. I’m currently trying to save up $5k to pay someone to repair the rust on my front pan at the A arm attachment points. A real enthusiast would be teaching himself to weld and fix it himself. Please issue me a poseur card.

Eh. That's a pretty big job. I'm guessing you've dealt with some rust repair in the past, so you're using your EXPERIENCE to hire a professional. I don't see anything wrong with that. But the dudes that literally never tried anything? Ever? Not enthusiasts. Poseurs.

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Originally Posted by matt930s (Post 10527010)
So, I just went through the entire wiring loom (tracking shorts, melted wires) on my 36k mile original 1986.5 928.

What a f@#%ing nightmare. I would have loved to pay someone to do it, but that’s cost prohibitive for this car. Figure 20 hours. The real truth is there are very few folks out there that will even touch some of this stuff or have any experience.

Yup. Part of being an enthusiast is knowing that you can't trust places to do some jobs correctly. If you just dropped it off at a repair place.... lol... yeah no. They wouldn't even quote it because it'd be impossible to estimate. You knew it sucked, but you pulled up your sleeves and tore into it and did it, and it sucked. That's enthusiasm. Rich little *****es would have just sold the car.

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10526685)
im not wrenching on any of my cars these days due to lack of garage space while I look for my forever home.. do I have to put away my "enthusiast" card until the roll away is again with in my immediate reach? if so do I send it to you for reissuance when you see fit? will there be a vote on if I get it back?

You have experience. You are an enthusiast because you're enthusiastic about doing stuff but you don't have a garage right now. I get it. But if you DID have a garage, and unlimited money, would you be building cars and learning new things in your free time? Yes? Then yeah, you're an enthusiast. That is drastically different from some dude with a big bank account who just cuts checks.

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Originally Posted by speednme1 (Post 10526491)
Problem is you speak in absolute. No where is a written that an enthusiast has to wrench. That is your opinion and nothing more. You my friend are a snob wrencher. Looking down on those that don't wrench is pompous. Not sure if that is the way you want to come across....but it's looking that way.

Oh darn I'll offend the rich people that don't know anything, however will I find meaning or satisfaction in my life?

PEOPLE WHO DO NOT TRY OR STRIVE TO LEARN ANYTHING NEW ARE BORING AND I DON'T CARE IF I OFFEND THEM. If you don't wrench, you are LESS of an enthusiast than someone who does. You guys are free to have your own opinion, but that's mine.

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Matt Monson 07-17-2019 12:38 PM

This is what we get from the participation trophy generation. They don’t care if they are right or wrong, just that they tried.

ADDvanced 07-17-2019 12:53 PM

More like, people who don't ever even try once, are not enthusiasts.

JMS935 07-17-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ADDvanced (Post 10527367)
Yes it does. You don't know how anything works. Your only experience will be from behind the seat. You won't be able to diagnose anything, you won't be able to improve anything, and you will rely on others.

You COULD choose to start learning, but you choose not to. You're less of an enthusiast because you're only participating in SOME of it. Sorry.



Eh. That's a pretty big job. I'm guessing you've dealt with some rust repair in the past, so you're using your EXPERIENCE to hire a professional. I don't see anything wrong with that. But the dudes that literally never tried anything? Ever? Not enthusiasts. Poseurs.



Yup. Part of being an enthusiast is knowing that you can't trust places to do some jobs correctly. If you just dropped it off at a repair place.... lol... yeah no. They wouldn't even quote it because it'd be impossible to estimate. You knew it sucked, but you pulled up your sleeves and tore into it and did it, and it sucked. That's enthusiasm. Rich little *****es would have just sold the car.



You have experience. You are an enthusiast because you're enthusiastic about doing stuff but you don't have a garage right now. I get it. But if you DID have a garage, and unlimited money, would you be building cars and learning new things in your free time? Yes? Then yeah, you're an enthusiast. That is drastically different from some dude with a big bank account who just cuts checks.



Oh darn I'll offend the rich people that don't know anything, however will I find meaning or satisfaction in my life?

PEOPLE WHO DO NOT TRY OR STRIVE TO LEARN ANYTHING NEW ARE BORING AND I DON'T CARE IF I OFFEND THEM. If you don't wrench, you are LESS of an enthusiast than someone who does. You guys are free to have your own opinion, but that's mine.

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You are a total buffoon, and since you obviously aren’t aware of the meaning of some of the words in the English language, here’s the definition for you...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563397086.jpg
You are a clown, a fool, an idiot, a dolt...you get the picture.

Those that don’t wrench are less of a gearhead, not less of an enthusiast. You’re too boneheaded to understand this though.

Matt Monson 07-17-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ADDvanced (Post 10527542)
More like, people who don't ever even try once, are not enthusiasts.

You just keep making my point. Your subjective opinion of it does not change the objective definition of it. Thanks for trying.

ADDvanced 07-17-2019 01:38 PM

Yeah I'm a huge word enthusiast, I don't know anything about them and I don't bother reading definitions of them, but I like using them so I guess you'd have to say I'm a pretty big word enthusiast.

Matt Monson 07-17-2019 02:24 PM

Word to your mother.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE

juanbenae 07-17-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ADDvanced (Post 10527542)
More like, people who don't ever even try once, are not enthusiasts.


I think a line can be drawn between an "enthusiast" and a "gearhead" now that we've gone through this exercise.

it's clearer to me now IMO that anyone can be an "enthusiast", check cutter or DIY guy. a gearhead is more of a guy that's going to get his hands dirty and go at projects in the true DIY spirt. to be completely honest pelican & other BBS with the ability to research a project before I delve in has given me a ton more confidence to do more things myself that I ever would have imagined myself doing with my vehicles 15-16 years ago.


I also believe that a true gearhead should know where their ability and level of knowledge runs out. I do a ton on my own to my rigs from the 911, the jeep, the DRZ and even the 2500 HD diesel but I have a good sense of where my abilities end. when building my racecar I knew better than to attempt the cage construction, I did gut the interior and remove every bit of sound deadening. as noted recently in the G-fiddy thread I dropped the motor and gearbox and took it to a wrench to be rebuilt because I knew it was way beyond my ability. same with both 911 motors ive had rebuilt. it just as important to be aware of what you don't know as what you do.


I was lucky with the 911 though. a shop near me that I was as much friends with the owner and two techs as I was a customer always let me do work id never attempt on my own at the shop under their watchful eyes. I was fortunate in that sense and it made me realize my limitations very quickly.


im more of a gearhead than an enthusiast in terms of my definition of the two I guess.


I did go to a buddies house/shop today and rotate the tires on the jeep for no other reason than to get my gearhead card freshly stamped and my hands a little dirty in an effort to please ADD...:D

NYNick 07-17-2019 03:09 PM

For the love of God, who cares?

Another waste of time about somebody's opinion. If I wanted to be told how to think I'd turn on the news.

dwelle 07-17-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10527642)
I also believe that a true gearhead should know where their ability and level of knowledge runs out.

it's just as important to be aware of what you don't know as what you do.

^^^this.

jeez, what have i started here? this isn't a discussion on what it is to be an enthusiast. it's turned into what it is to be a myopic, uptight, self important car snob. what's the point? somebody has to have more street cred or cool points than someone else? trivial.

and pointless.

or so it seems....

matt930s 07-17-2019 03:35 PM

^^^

It’s about stanced !



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563406515.jpg

matt930s 07-17-2019 03:37 PM

Stanced G-fiddy!


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563406661.jpg

juanbenae 07-17-2019 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dwelle (Post 10527674)
^^^this.


im shatting in high cotton if a legend like my man dave is ^^^^^ out my points....

juanbenae 07-17-2019 03:47 PM

so, ive been looking where to fit this in recently and this train wreck seems as good as any. I get this PM the other day from a fellow pelican that im editing the quote on to hide his identity. I was quite honored to be thought of so highly..


Hi Juan-

My name is (edited), I have followed your input in the forums for quite sometime, top shelf.

I have a a number of projects I could use assistance with, difficult to find people with 911 experience on Kauai. Wanted to throw it out there that I have a nice guest room and a spare truck if you are interested in checking out Kauai with free accommodations/wheels in exchange for a little wrench work.

Have a nice day.

Regards



frankly I thought it was raw messin with me. I do wish I could get away for a while, but after moving to the foothills ive got too much on my plate. if this does not get my "enthusiast" card renewed for a couple years I don't know what will.... must be a carb guy???


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