Trading in classic aircooled at Porsche dealer

[Rick Brooklyn]

The Porsche pre-owned car locator shows 37 vehicles nationwide that are model year 1989 or older. Not that many, but more than I thought. The lowest priced is a 1986 3.2 at $40k. There's also a 1980 SC coupe with TMU at $49k, which seems like a nice clean car but a bit rich at that price.

Does anyone have a view on trading a classic 911 at a Porsche dealer? Are they likely to lowball you to hell and back, and maybe just take it in as a favor to loyal clients who are buying a big ticket GT or Turbo car, or can it work out ok? I know these are special times with the COVID recession and everything, but I'd be curious to know how it works as a general matter.

[Matt Monson]

It really depends on the dealer. The ones who are part of the Classic network are the best prospects. PM Manbridge74 (Jeff) He probably has more direct insight and valuable advice than anyone who would post to this thread.

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

It really depends on the dealer. The ones who are part of the Classic network are the best prospects. PM Manbridge74 (Jeff) He probably has more direct insight and valuable advice than anyone who would post to this thread.

Thanks. Interestingly, the picture advertising one of the Classic dealers shows a car that's the spitting image of mine. Maybe I should talk to them, lol.

[Vaive]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

Does anyone have a view on trading a classic 911 at a Porsche dealer? Are they likely to lowball you to hell and back, and maybe just take it in as a favor to loyal clients who are buying a big ticket GT or Turbo car, or can it work out ok?.

Of course they will lowball you to hell and back. It's a car dealership. The fact it says Por-SCHA on the side of the building doesn't change how car dealers work.

[NYNick]

Rick, I'd only consider a trade-in of any sort if I was buying another car. It's only money to everyone involved, so treat it accordingly. You wouldn't do half as well on a one way deal.

You might be onto something now, however. I'm guessing new P-car sales are very low right now, maybe even with big incentives. IDK. A car that's been sitting on a dealers lot is a ticking 'floor plan' time bomb for them. If you know you numbers, you might be able to cut a great deal on something they're dying to move.

Just remember, these days the money is made in the finance office, not at the salesmen's desk. These guys might as well have curled mustaches and be named Simon Legree. They know all the tricks and how to separate you from your money.

GLWT!

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

Are they likely to lowball you to hell and back, and maybe just take it in as a favor to loyal clients who are buying a big ticket GT or Turbo car, or can it work out ok?

Expecting a dealer to give you a fair deal as a "loyal client" ? I fear for you because chances are you're going to get killed.

Don't be this guy.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/1050251-selling-your-911-northern-ca-read-first.html

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by pmax

Expecting a dealer to give you a fair deal as a "loyal client" ? I fear for you because chances are you're going to get killed.

Don't be this guy.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/1050251-selling-your-911-northern-ca-read-first.html

Yeah I remember that thread, not a good story.

Maybe I wasn't clear in my post, I'm not a loyal client of anybody's, what I meant was, maybe P dealers dabble in classic 911s only to make good clients happy? those clients who buy a fully loaded new Turbo S every two years, and a Cayenne Turbo S for the wife, those kinda guys. Or is it a bit more routine than that.

[Vaive]

Originally Posted by NYNick

Just remember, these days the money is made in the finance office, not at the salesmen's desk. These guys might as well have curled mustaches and be named Simon Legree. They know all the tricks and how to separate you from your money.

GLWT!

In the F&I office, recall Nancy Reagan's slogan JUST SAY NO. To every question. Don't even think about it. N. O...NO!

Do you want an extended warranty? NO!
Do you want prepaid oil changes? NO!
Do you want Gap insurance? NO!
Do you want VIN etching? NO!
Do you want a $700 wax job, errr I mean the sun protection package? NO!!

And so forth....

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by NYNick

Rick, I'd only consider a trade-in of any sort if I was buying another car. It's only money to everyone involved, so treat it accordingly. You wouldn't do half as well on a one way deal.

You might be onto something now, however. I'm guessing new P-car sales are very low right now, maybe even with big incentives. IDK. A car that's been sitting on a dealers lot is a ticking 'floor plan' time bomb for them. If you know you numbers, you might be able to cut a great deal on something they're dying to move.

Just remember, these days the money is made in the finance office, not at the salesmen's desk. These guys might as well have curled mustaches and be named Simon Legree. They know all the tricks and how to separate you from your money.

GLWT!

Yes indeed, that was my thinking. I'm not in a hurry to sell, and I don't have an urge to step into another Porsche, but I was wondering if hypothetically it could be a viable option to try to deliver a classic 911 as a trade towards the purchase of a high 5-digits car like a 991.2, or if even in that context you'd get an ultra-lowball bid comparable to a lowballing outright cash buyer.

[Vaive]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

Yeah I remember that thread, not a good story.

Maybe I wasn't clear in my post, I'm not a loyal client of anybody's, what I meant was, maybe P dealers dabble in classic 911s only to make good clients happy? those clients who buy a fully loaded new Turbo S every two years, and a Cayenne Turbo S for the wife, those kinda guys. Or is it a bit more routine than that.

I think you're way overthinking this.

Dealers don't care if it's a classic Porsche or a Hyundai Accent with 285K miles. If there is a profit possibility they'll take it on trade. The classic Porsche will probably go on sale at the dealer the Hyundai will go straight to auction. But the bottom line's the same. How much profit is there available based on what we (the dealership) offer?

Dealerships don't do anyone favors.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

Yeah I remember that thread, not a good story.

Maybe I wasn't clear in my post, I'm not a loyal client of anybody's, what I meant was, maybe P dealers dabble in classic 911s only to make good clients happy? those clients who buy a fully loaded new Turbo S every two years, and a Cayenne Turbo S for the wife, those kinda guys. Or is it a bit more routine than that.

Given that, I say the dealer is very well aware that you can afford to lose your shirt on the 74 and still keep buying a new Turbo every two years.

Why don't you mothball the car and see what happens later in case the passion returns ? You've already invested plenty both in $$$ and time (not a bad thing mind you) on it.

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by pmax

Given that, I say the dealer is very well aware that you can afford to lose your shirt on the 74 and still keep buying a new Turbo every two years.

Why don't you mothball the car and see what happens later in case the passion returns ? You've already invested plenty both in $$$ and time (not a bad thing mind you) on it.

Yeah not in a hurry, happy to drive it a bit through the summer and take good care of it until next spring. But I'm finding myself checking out cars a lot during boring conference calls all day while working from home, so I end up getting thoughts...

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

Yeah not in a hurry, happy to drive it a bit through the summer and take good care of it until next spring. But I'm finding myself checking out cars a lot during boring conference calls all day while working from home, so I end up getting thoughts...

Dangerous territory.

[juanbenae]

adam finds this unsettling...

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

Yeah not in a hurry, happy to drive it a bit through the summer and take good care of it until next spring. But I'm finding myself checking out cars a lot during boring conference calls all day while working from home, so I end up getting thoughts...

Try looking at more online porn instead - a cheaper way to pass time (unless the wifey has a problem with it that could result in a costly divorce, that is! ).

[SkunkWorks]

Last dealer told me they'd likely value my SC low as they wouldn't be able to CPO it.

I laughed and thanked him for his time.

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by pmax

Don't be this guy.

wah? no stock pig farm shots, not reposting raw's chick marerial, or a your old stand
-by a cappy caveman video?

Originally Posted by pmax

Given that, I say the dealer is very well aware that you can afford to lose your shirt on the 74 and still keep buying a new Turbo every two years.

Why don't you mothball the car and see what happens later in case the passion returns ? You've already invested plenty both in $$$ and time (not a bad thing mind you) on it.

I find it hard to take ol serious nutz serious......

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

Try looking at more online porn instead - a cheaper way to pass time (unless the wifey has a problem with it that could result in a costly divorce, that is! ).

Wifey would also much prefer I look at porn than cars, actually.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

Wifey would also much prefer I look at porn than cars, actually.

Sounds like a keeper!

[1979-930]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

Yeah not in a hurry, happy to drive it a bit through the summer and take good care of it until next spring. But I'm finding myself checking out cars a lot during boring conference calls all day while working from home, so I end up getting thoughts...

I get that. It's just boredom and fantasies. I found myself perusing houseboats on Lake Shasta.
Started thinking it would be fun for a few years while the kids are teenagers. Get a couple jet skis, go there on weekends, bla,bla,bla. Where the hell did that come from