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Jay H 03-06-2007 07:20 PM

944S Value
 
This seems like a reasonable price for this "S" in this condition. What do you all think?

944S

http://www.europeanlocators.com/ac-rr.jpg

natey 03-07-2007 01:08 PM

I think this one might be hard to put a number on. A top driver-condition 944S might bring in the neighborhood of $7k. But this car claims to be concourse-quality, and I don't see very many concourse-class cars on the market in the places I look.

The joke is that anything is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it, but that may literally be the case here...I'm not sure there is a standard market value for cars in this condition (at least, not that I've seen here). If you want a show car, you like this one, and you're willing to pay about what they're asking, go for it. It is a good-looking car in the pictures (and, they claim to have service records -- really unusual for a dealership).

But, if you want a car to drive, I wouldn't buy that one. You can find a good driver for less, and if you're not a concourse guy, you probably won't be able to tell the difference (at least, I probably couldn't).

Jay H 03-07-2007 01:17 PM

Natey,

Thanks for the discussion. I'm not in the market for this car, but I am not educated enough on 944 S values. However, I watch this dealer frequently and just thought for a potential concours condition car, it was priced fairly from what I perceive 944S cars should be priced at (it's cheap for a very nice Porsche).

I'm an amature concours judge and will agree that it seems rare to find these cars in these conditions. It sure looks like a nice car from the pics that could be worked on a bit and competed with.

Best,

Jay

nota 03-07-2007 01:51 PM

limit is the S2 value
as the S2 has air bags anti lock brakes and a bigger motor too
and at 11500 you can get a nice S2 maybe not quite as low mile or
nice as that car but close
9 10 k is the top value for the 944s

DanielDudley 03-07-2007 02:47 PM

My old 37K car is now at a dealer for 15,000.00. He hasn't sold it yet.

It was as perfect as a 1 year old car, I paid 8,900.00 for it. If you haven't driven an S, I would suggest that you do before purchasing one, as they aren't awfully rapid above the speed limit. Very fine cars though, and a free flow helps them a lot. I sold mine for what I paid, and I did a TB, WP, & full 30K service. Super AC and a wonderful driver. The S2 motor is the one to have unless you want 30 + MPG on the highway. An S will easily do that.

DanielDudley 03-07-2007 02:49 PM

Addendum. It wasn't a slow car, and would go very fast on the highway. It just wasn't as rapid as other cars.

Dueller 03-07-2007 03:44 PM

With 63K on the clock, I doubt its concours. But it does appear to very very clean and well taken care of...I say 9.5K tops(even at a dealership).

racer 03-07-2007 05:11 PM

The undebody rear valance (ala 944 Turbo) is wrong for a 944S. Guess its not a "perfect" concours car ;)

I looked at a 944S for sale locally that was of very good overall condition. Excellent paint. Very good interior. Good options, All the original paperwork (in fact, original owner)... Car started at $10,5 then he lowered it to $9.5 and now (still - 6-8 months later) the car is STILL on the market at $10,5. The car I saw still had original shocks (which needed replacement) AC had no charge either.

As mentioned, they aren't "slow" but they aren't "fast" either. 188hp. Approx 2800lbs? 0-60 in about 7 seconds. Its a car that really needs to be revved high to make any speed.

The S2 is a much better overall package - Turbo brakes, suspension, 210 hp and good torque!

Jay H 03-07-2007 05:49 PM

For concours, it really depends on the class or event as to how non original parts will be perceived. In my region, this Turbo spoiler on the back would be a non issue, just as long as it's clean since all of our classes are based solely on how clean something is.

Other events and/or National classes would frown on the Turbo spoiler because it's not how the car was delivered.

Natey, Nota, Daniel, Dueller and racer: Thanks for your input on pricing on this car!!

Jay

jwade944 03-08-2007 10:00 AM

FYI. The "dealer" for this car is a PCA Club Racing Steward. He is very knowledgable about Porsches. (I say this even though he 13/13'd me several years ago.) I have no experience buying one of his cars, but would believe that his description is accurate.

DanielDudley 03-08-2007 05:47 PM

I would say that if it needed nothing his asking price would be about what I had into mine after servicing. 10,500.00 would be a fair offer. To the right person, that would be an excellent car.


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