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Question 1970 911 S Value

What would you consider the value of this 1970 911 S to be. It's matching numbers, restored with original paint color, 2.2MFI S. It has some minor upgrades including Sport Koni Adjustable shocks, stiffer torsion bars, Momo Steering wheel and optima racing battery. Engine, trans and interior are stock, everything works except the clock I think. It has sport Recaros (Not leather) and the usual S parts. Pretty much everything has been replaced with Genuine Porsche parts. It's not a concours car, but is a very respectable, solid, usable car with no evidence of rust anywhere. It starts well and drives very nicley, no clutch judder, tight handling, great brakes. It has some minor oil leaks which I intend to investigate and fix prior to selling - more annoying than evidence of a major issue I think. I don't have original sale documentation or fully know what the real mileage is.

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That's a very nice and very desireable car. Fix the leaks and detail it to a high level (paint and interior and minor engine compartment detailing) and that will increase the value even more. Spending $200-300 at a good detailer will probably give you a few thousand in value back.

If this car has zero rust (or very, very minimal rust), I would bet you could see $30,000 to $45,000 for this car. Maybe more... I would definitely get the car looking very good and price it high. You can always come down. I bet the high end dealers in the country would be all over this car to flip it for $5,000 to $10,000 over what they pay you... The exchange rates are favorable to European buyers as well.

These "S" cars have absolutely gone though the roof. We're seeing ultra low mileage, top level concours condition T's hit $75-100,000 and the "S" seems to be more desireable yet. Nice T's and E's are in the $20,000 to $40,000 range.

Good Luck!

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The 2.2L 'S' cars are one of my favorites so I am a bit biased but I would think you should be in the low to mid 50's with this car, maybe more depending on the paint quality and mechanicals. If you do the little things like Jay mentions you would see a respectable multiple return on that investment of time and parts. For instance, in the engine compartment photo I notice missing decals on the latch panel, also a missing rubber seal just below that area too. You could go all around the car and correct the little stuff like that and really make it justify a strong price.

As it looks now though there are a number of good things about this car that would excite many potential buyers. Be sure to shop it around when you have a price in mind, especially the Early S board. I'm located in northwest Indiana so if you are somewhat close I would be happy to meet up with some time to share thoughts on your 911. It would be a good excuse for a trip in the RS.
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It would be a good excuse for a trip in the RS.
Brian,

Anytime you want to drive that RS up to Wisconsin to let me drool over it, you just let me know!

Back to this car... I agree with Brian that fixing all the little stuff will pay off big time.

A good detail job and some well shot photos would really make this car 'pop' and add quite a bit of value. The more I look at this thing, the more I want it...

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay H
The more I look at this thing, the more I want it...

+1 Jay! I agree. Too bad I don't have the jack to buy this one - she looks nice. Hey Brian, if you go, give me a call. That would give me a good excuse to excersize the hotrod. That car looks really nice and clean. If it is rust free, do all the things that the Brian and Jay mentioned and you should have a very strong $50's car or more.

Good luck and don't sell low to a dealer just so he can flip it.
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Hi Jay,

Sent you a PM.

Scott,

Maybe we could meet up thevojtiseks and convince him to join our Midwest early 911 group escapades this summer before he sells the car?
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I agree Brian. I would love to see that car in person and with our group. Wish I could afford it, but I would have to sell a beloved toy or two. Can't do that.
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That's a sweet car, very sweet. You'd likely find a lot of interest right here on Pelican. I'd certainly be interested.
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Thanks for all your nice replys, the people on this BB are so great ! I'll take all your advice to mind and will start thinking about other bits and peices. There was a mention of selling to European buyers - would this be referring to dealers like Autofarm or done privately, how would one go about advertising to European buyers ? ....seems like the Pound is at a 25 year+ high against the dollar and the Euro is strong too...
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There are several websites on which you could list your car that would be seen by European and GB buyers. One site is ddk-online A great group of early Porsche enthusiasts. Another is Classic Driver

Another option is a broker. If I was selling an early 911 I would use a very good friend who is located in Germany. He is very knowledgeable with Porsches, especially early 911s and short hood Carreras. He has brokered many sales and has great references. Hope this helps and best wishes with the sale.
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Consider joining PCA......
If I were considering selling the "S" at a premium and completed all the small repairs and detailing as suggested here, I would bite the bullet and pay the $$ to join the Porsche Club of America for several reasons.
1) you can advertise in the Porsche Panorama magazine to a wider audience 2) you can advertise in the local club newsletter classifieds that gets exposure nationwide 3) you can get an official PCA evaluation certification that will give you a dollar range the car is valued at, which I find very fair and reasonable based on market analysis 4) you can attached a cool enamel PCA badge on the rear grill that ads authentication and appeal and 5) you can get excellent advise on increasing its value and selling points from senior members. Europe may not be the answer yet.

You have an excellent car here that is in a class of its own. Right now dozens of folks are probably trying to find this car and will pay you top dollar, but its how to find you!!

With some patience and skill you can take that extra 5K - 8K you never thought you would get and take a first class nice trip to Europe to see an F1 race this summer or buy a nice 944 for the garage!

Good luck
Bob
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