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jamesjedi 01-26-2011 09:42 AM

Another Possible Car
 
I am not sure if anyone is familiar with this car? It is exactly (almost) what I am after. It is prepared track car. Any thoughts on pricing? The car has about 6,500 miles of track time on a rebuild; I would think that would be considered allot on 3.0L that has 269 RWHP. I also realize thatit would need a leak down/compression check and thurough PPI. I am looking for some thoughts on it. Thanks for any help.


Here is the listing;

For Sale---1983 Porsche 911 Euro non-sunroof Coupe.

Add a window net, and this car is ready to go GT-4 racing.
3.2l motor from 3.0l block w/3.2 crank.
Chasis presently has 134k miles on it.
Motor built in 2006 by Kieth Peare of Powertech, New Jersey.
9.4 comp. Ratio, using hi-test PUMP GAS.
Front oil cooler
B&B headers, with Tri-flow dual in, dual out muffler.
269 R.W.H.P.@6740 rpm. On Dyna-Pak chasis dyno.
993 front brakes with Cool Brake ducts
Coleman floating front rotors
944 front Turbo brakes in rear with Tilton proportioning valve.
Stainless Steel braided brake lines.
NEW 0 hours 915 trans w/Quaif positraction unit.
Weltmeister short shifter.
22/31mm tubular Sway-away torsion bars.
Koni 3-way adjustable shocks.
Mono-ball front shock mounts.
Camber Truss.
H&R 22mm sway bars front & rear.
Adjustable spring plates.
New rear wheel bearings.
Lindsay Racing ( manufactured by Bogard in Ca. ) Light weight wheels w/T6061 centers.
Fr. 17x8 with new BF Goodrich R1 235x17x40 tires
Rear 17x9.5 with new BF Goodrich R1 275x17x40 tires.
Front wheels weigh 18#
Rear wheels weight 19#
New C.V. joints.
Light weight Hi-Torque starter
Light weight outside rear view mirrors by Vitalloni.
Fiberglass front and rear bumpers
Fiberglass Whale Tail rear spoiler
L.E.D. brake lights.
Lexan side and rear glass
Light weight battery with emergency cut-off switch.
Light weight Corbeau Racing bucket seats.
Brey-Kraus driver’s seat back brace.
Safety Devices welded-in roll cage.
Car weights approx. 23-2300#
Car is corner balanced and alighlined.
This car would probably cost over $50,000 to build today.
Time for me to move on to something different.

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racer 01-26-2011 11:37 AM

From my days running in NNJR PCA (up till about 2006 with frequency) I know both the owner and the car.

Looks like a 3.2 built from a 3.0. HP seems high to me if its still single plug, and running carbs. imho, 270rwhp means about 300 at the crank.. from a pump gas 3.2? Now, if you said 270 flywheel hp (about 240 at the wheels) i'd believe more readily.

That said, before a rebuild in '06 the car would pull my more street based SC (also a 3.2 with 220hp at the crank) quite easily.

For the price ($16 ish?) its a steal imho.. assuming a PPI of the motor works out. It would cost easily double to build.

jamesjedi 01-26-2011 02:26 PM

Thanks the insight. I was wondering about the HP as well. I assume that this a "short stroke" 3.2. Possibly 10+ compression. It looks to be single plug.

That said, this is a 3.0 L engine that is putting out high HP numbers. It is an engine that is stressed when compared to a 3.6 He has run 6500 miles of track time. That may have caused considerable ware on the engine.

The car does appear to be a little rough. Which I am 100% OK with, I am not sure what that means when determining the value?

racer 01-26-2011 02:56 PM

Realize that it is NOT street legal, so you will need a trailer ;) 0 hr rebulid trans with a quaife LSD! Like I said, have some numbers pulled on the motor (compression, leakdown etc). Ask to see the dyno sheets. You will NEVER come close to building a car like this for only $16K and if your worried about the motor, sell it and drop in a 993 3.6 :)

6500 miles may sound like a lot.. but its only 1600 miles per year.


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