Barn find ? How bout this field find!
 

The other day I was talking with a prospective new customer when he mentioned a old PORSCHE that he say hes owned for some time , he asked about getting it started back up again !He did not know what year etc. but it had been sitting for about 20years , what he did not mention was the fact it had been in this field , in one spot for the entire time. What a shock I was in for today when I went to go check it out ! turns out its a70 911t nonsunroof coupe 2.2t-911/07 motor with a 915 box .Heres where it gets interesting. some time in the cars past , it was updated and I mean they cliped the fenderwells and added all the mount brackets etc. for late model bumpers The vin tags match they installed ac and late oiltank , trans and interior , You can see what looks like early non power sport seats and some other custom console parts so ,think I can get her running by the weekend ?:eek:

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That is a sad site.
 

I'm sad.:confused:

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Under all that are weber carbs and a fully chrome plated airfilter assembly. more pictures -http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318656032.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318656259.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318656456.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1318656743.jpg

That's a sad sight :(. Hope you can get it going again.

Looks like someone spent some real money on the car to "update" it when this was the fashion.

I will never understand why people do that, leave a car like that outside to rot. If you can't park it under cover then sell it IMO
Finn

Truly a sad sight. Is it for sale or is it another one of those " I'm going to hang on to it for a while, maybe I'll restore it someday " . Good luck to you.

The idiot that "Updated" the car could have spent the money and effort to properly maintain a wonderful piece of equipment. Instead the result is a complete POS.

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I will be updating soon , the car was towed out of the field and got pressure washed , we then had it flatbed towed to my place on MONDAY , Finaly was able to clearly see what this was all about , car has been clipped across the front with a short hood nose and the rear was updated also , was a good job done , as it was hard to find the weld seams , more to follow .

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I wanted update where it stands so far , car has been pressure washed and wheels were swapped out , turns out car has oe 7-8x16 fuchs but the pirelli p-7 tires were rotted off , no for the GOLD car has WEBER 40IDAP carbs and when I removed them for inspection , po had tuned them 32mm venturies big jets , manifolds are ported to ported heads 35mm 007 dist. from 69-71 911S . I pulled the plugs and filled the cyls with blaster , used a whole can and let it sit overnight engine turns over by hand ! 22mm wrench on fan nut .I will let sit another day and in the mean time I removed the fuel sender and was suprised at how clean the tank is ! the fuel has turned to thinner , but thankfully no rust !The pump is rusted out , which is too bad because its not rebuildable . Next is to install a battery and power it up for the first time in TWO decades ! then spin it over and check compression and do a leak down test , if it passes then on to rebuilding the fuel syestem .http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319081147.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319081381.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319081635.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319081851.jpg

Congrats. Looks like you have your work cut out for you. Enjoy. Keep us posted.

Hilarious comment:D and sadly so true:( don't spend any money on it, just do what you can for free and hope to enjoy driving it.

What is the engine number? That red shroud looks enticing...

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The rd shroud is just that -red 2.2T - that has been hotrodded - put in a battery and tried spinning it , starter was dead pulled it out and cleaned it up , cleaned all cables and terminals reinstalled it drained the oil and not too bad ! no metal on the drain plugs ! refilled and spun it over , 20psi oil on the guage at free cranking speed with no plugs in it ! but wait! bad clank noise coming from trans ? when spinning goes away when clutch depressed looks like maybe a mainshaft issue or clutch issue ? gonna pull the motor today but first I will run a comp test .

The rd shroud is just that -red 2.2T

Red shrouds were put on S motors not T motors, hence the request to check the engine number. May just be a red shroud on a T motor, but it is worth a quick check. Good luck with your find.

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ITS A 911SC shroud on a 2.2t motor , looks like motor was apart at one time not long before being parked 2.2R case , carb heads.

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UPDATE - today got the motor out and on the stand ! then went to drain the trans oil , removed the plug , and NO OIL! magnet full of crap ? , loose operating shaft , worn bushings , pulled the clutch and found a sport pressure plate and worn out disc. rear main not leaking , but will change it out anyway.Then on to teardown , pulled all tin and fan and shroud , wire harness etc . lots of rat nests and debris in there .Pulled the exhaust off and not bad , looks like newer -at that time heat exchangers were put on , muffler from a 76 egr car was modified with a giant outlet pipe , but muffler is a coveted two in one out .On to the fuel tank , drained the varnish , removed the pump or whts left of it , maybe able to salvage it if I can find a rebuider , looks like 600.00 ? for one new ! removed all the rotted fuel hoses and VW fuel filters .next is a motor teardown , inspection and see what suprises lay ahead .One detail that got my curiosity is the cylinders are aluminum , where as the T motors had castiron cyls .as standard . solid chain tensioners mean never having to worry about a collapse!!. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319529731.jpg
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you don't need a $600 pump for those carbs:eek:, a $30 facet will be fine:)

What distributor is on it? That might give you a clue of what they did inside the engine. Though if you are taking it apart either way, you'll know soon enough.

Sounds like they parked it because they blew the gearbox, the clutch, or both.

If it is not too personal or inappropriate...
 

may I ask how good of a deal you got on that rig?

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The dist. is a 007 - 69-71 MFI S full centrifugal advance type , cylinders are alloy ,not cast iron , I dont use the facet pumps because they tend to quit without warning ! Car actually belongs to a customer who got it by trading a HONDA accord for it 20 years ago .http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319573177.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1319573286.jpg
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all makes sense now, if its the customers money then carry on regardless:) we were just all concerned you were spending and working too much on an ultimately worthless car. All the best.

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POSSIBLE BACKDATE IS ON THE TABLE NOW , but first I got the green light to do both engine and trans teardown estimates this week , then brakes ,pedal assembly interior , prep body for repaint , maybe put back to 70 on the body .We are going to also pull all a/c out of the car as this would be cost and labor prohibitive to restore

I was going to make my first post on these forums an introductory post but i happened to run across this..... I am subbing in on this one. I cant wait to hear more about this car! SmileWavy

Those look like 16x6's up front.

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Yes , the car has 6x16, 7x16 on it real FUCHS , we dismounted the rotted P-7 tires and they have been sent out to be refinished , they were chromed ! but it is peeling everywhere, caps are like new even after sitting , and are also being polished .

Sounds awesome!!! Any word on the motor yet?

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SO here is an update on what was done so far , rnr motor , complete teardown and evaluation of all parts . Engine was absolutley filthy and oily , due to sitting in a field and all the case sealant , the old gorilla snot crap that was used to seal the case and heads etc. was dried and gone , the big suprise is what was on the inside , found 2.4S MAHLES , measured well within specs , just oily from leaks , 2.4/2.7 crank and rods ! found bearings with erosion from sitting in one place and dry but crank journals are perfect ! measured all within std. specs , Then found 2.0S camshafts #109/110 FROM A 67/68 S car .The case is a 2.2r with no updates at all done to it .The cyl heads will need a complete rebuilds due to early guides /wear and slight marring on ce ring surfaces , crankshaft will be checked and cleaned micropolished , rods rebuilt , rockers rebuilt , two of the rockers are the later style . NEXT , on to the trans . http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1320123469.jpg
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That's going to make for a nice little hot rod motor when you are done with it. Just shows that not every car found in a field should be dismissed as useless and worthless.

What a fuggin' sin! Dagnammit..

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I finaly had time this week to teardown the 915 box , all the numbers were ground off the bottom :( but prod . date stamps are 11-74 , still an early mag case 915 witha cable speedo , cable was broken too. Now for the bad news , now I know why car was parked , found fifth gear teeth broken and parts in bottom of tail housing , slider is toast ,all due to the needle bearing giving up due to low or no oil in trans .Further teardown inspection found no other broken parts , dogteeth are good , but will need to replace main and pinion shaft bearings as these are heavily worn on the races .I will post some post teardown pics soon .

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I had some spare time this week to work on the field car , so here is the latest , performed a teardown estimate on the 915 box , found the 5th gear broken , sent the caseses to be cleaned , both engine and trans , also I was able to locate a good used 5th gear set and hub , to replace the brokens .Here are some pics of the carnage in the rear cover , what is hard to see is the dog teeth are actually warped from the impact ! by about 2mm .http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322792147.jpg
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Any updates on this car?