value of 84 cabriolet

gethelp · 06-14-2013, 06:21 AM

I am just trying to get an idea of an non-inflated and REALISTIC price of an 84 cabriolet private owner

PRIVATE MESSAGE YOUR REPLIES PLEASE

The prices of 911s have gone from 13-18k and now are 18-30k so I have no real idea

Black with no spoiler..110k miles..it is the original paint job..the car has the following:

She is a daily driver NOT a museum piece. I have maintained Roxanne to the highest standards so that she could be driven anywhere and anytime. She has had a few changes made:

RS door panels.
MANUAL windows
OPENING FRONT black vent windows
brand new black lightweight carpet kit
Power sport script seats from a later car.
Black Dashcap (original dash underneath is awful)
New windshield and seal
15 x7 and 15 x8 fuchs with brand new rubber
AC parts removed
Manual soft-top is in very nice shape
Cabriolet boot is in excellent shape.
Momo steering wheel installed
LLoyd black porsche mats front and rear (brand new)

Following work performed:

Complete 915 Transmission rebuild including all syncros and all related internal components
Fuel Filter
Oil Filter and 20w-50 oil change EVERY MONTH (filter every other month)
Spark plug replacement
Distributor cap and rotor
Beru spark plug wires
Clutch cable
Gearshift rod coupling replacement
Shift lever replacement
Flywheel replacement
Valve Adjustment
CV Axle replacement (both sides)
Ignition Switch repair and replacement
Clean and lubed adjustment of all three pedals (clutch brake and accelerator)
Removal of AC Compressor and housing
Replacement of six (6) Alternator shims
Replacement of alternator belt
Replacement of two (2) heater hoses to heat exchangers
Replacement of oil cooler seal
Replacement of oil thermostat seal
Replacement of oil breather seal
Complete Clutch kit assembly installation
Complete factory short shifter kit and all components
Wheel bearings replaced
Steering Bushing Replacement
Oil return line installation
Shift rod linkage boot
Transmission mounts replacement
Engine mounts replacement
Shifter shaft seal replacement
Replaced fork stud
Swepco Transmission fluid
Alternator replacement
Engine fan removal and replacement
Alternator voltage regulator replacement
Lloyd black front and rear Porsche floor-mats
Fuel pump
Fuel Pump DME relay
New targa-top guide pins
New Targa roof seals
Front and rear brake calipers
Front and rear brake pads
Valve Cover gasket replacement
Replacement of headlight trim seals
Fuel level sending unit

SilberUrS6 · 06-14-2013, 07:14 AM

PM? Why?

With the list of stuff, and without any further knowledge, $18-22k. If you're selling, ask $26k and see what happens. No way it's $30k, no matter how hard you squint.

gethelp · 06-14-2013, 07:36 AM

just thought it was easier to PM...but thanks for the information!

I am just trying to gauge a price for future reference

Matt Monson · 06-14-2013, 10:08 AM

As Eric alluded to, the purpose of the marketplace forum is to openly discuss the values of these cars as a resource to all members.

As a Cab, I would go a little over Eric's numbers more into the $22-25K range. If you ask $26k, you'll probably get an offer around what I am thinking.

mark waller · mark waller's Garage

I think that also is a good number. I bought my 83 cabriolet in October. Full repaint new seals, new leather interior and 1/2 the mileage. Very stock. I paid a little more than than $26K.

gethelp · 06-14-2013, 02:51 PM

I drove many SC's thinking that is what I wanted but I enjoyed the 3.2 motor and brakes more...But I also think the 83 is more tossable and will be a collectable too since its a one year only car.

Good luck with your 83!

WPOZZZ · 06-14-2013, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gethelp

I am just trying to get an idea of an non-inflated and REALISTIC price of an 84 cabriolet private owner

PRIVATE MESSAGE YOUR REPLIES PLEASE

The prices of 911s have gone from 13-18k and now are 18-30k so I have no real idea

Black with no spoiler..110k miles..it is the original paint job..the car has the following:

She is a daily driver NOT a museum piece. I have maintained Roxanne to the highest standards so that she could be driven anywhere and anytime. She has had a few changes made:

RS door panels.
MANUAL windows
OPENING FRONT black vent windows
brand new black lightweight carpet kit
Power sport script seats from a later car.
Black Dashcap (original dash underneath is awful)
New windshield and seal
15 x7 and 15 x8 fuchs with brand new rubber
AC parts removed
Manual soft-top is in very nice shape
Cabriolet boot is in excellent shape.
Momo steering wheel installed
LLoyd black porsche mats front and rear (brand new)

Following work performed:

Complete 915 Transmission rebuild including all syncros and all related internal components
Fuel Filter
Oil Filter and 20w-50 oil change EVERY MONTH (filter every other month)
Spark plug replacement
Distributor cap and rotor
Beru spark plug wires
Clutch cable
Gearshift rod coupling replacement
Shift lever replacement
Flywheel replacement
Valve Adjustment
CV Axle replacement (both sides)
Ignition Switch repair and replacement
Clean and lubed adjustment of all three pedals (clutch brake and accelerator)
Removal of AC Compressor and housing
Replacement of six (6) Alternator shims
Replacement of alternator belt
Replacement of two (2) heater hoses to heat exchangers
Replacement of oil cooler seal
Replacement of oil thermostat seal
Replacement of oil breather seal
Complete Clutch kit assembly installation
Complete factory short shifter kit and all components
Wheel bearings replaced
Steering Bushing Replacement
Oil return line installation
Shift rod linkage boot
Transmission mounts replacement
Engine mounts replacement
Shifter shaft seal replacement
Replaced fork stud
Swepco Transmission fluid
Alternator replacement
Engine fan removal and replacement
Alternator voltage regulator replacement
Lloyd black front and rear Porsche floor-mats
Fuel pump
Fuel Pump DME relay
New targa-top guide pins
New Targa roof seals
Front and rear brake calipers
Front and rear brake pads
Valve Cover gasket replacement
Replacement of headlight trim seals
Fuel level sending unit

I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish, but the black cab is an 85 and not an 84. You can tell it is an 85 by looking at the shape of the seats and the lack of an antenna. Also, I know it is an 85 since that was my car and I took the pic across the street from my house.

gethelp · 06-14-2013, 04:38 PM

just used the pic to reference a style. thanks in advance.

Matt Monson · 06-14-2013, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gethelp

just used the pic to reference a style. thanks in advance.

Wait, you are asking the value of a specific car and posting a picture of another one?

WPOZZZ · 06-14-2013, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Wait, you are asking the value of a specific car and posting a picture of another one?

Yup, because that was my car when it was running 7s all around.

Now, regarding the car the OP is asking about, I think these things are hit or miss and will depend on the buyer's taste.

Quote:

RS door panels.
MANUAL windows
OPENING FRONT black vent windows
brand new black lightweight carpet kit
Black Dashcap (original dash underneath is awful)
AC parts removed

RS panels, crank windows, vent windows and ac removed are more for someone looking for a spartan, raw feeling to the car. Lightweight carpets are so-so, but the killer is the dashcap. The dashcaps I've seen are pretty bad and look chintzy.

With those mods, you will be looking for a specific buyer for the car. The other stuff mentioned about recent work is just maintenance items. If they weren't done, it would have to be done by the new owner and the offer would be adjusted accordingly.

My old car with some changes including fresh paint and motor is now for sale for $24.9k. 1985 Used Porsche 911 Carrera at Auto Connection LLC Serving Honolulu, HI, IID 10295381

gethelp · 06-15-2013, 03:08 AM

they are awful but its 12 hrs i don't have to install a dash plus you have go find one haha

SilberUrS6 · 06-15-2013, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ

Yup, because that was my car when it was running 7s all around.

Now, regarding the car the OP is asking about, I think these things are hit or miss and will depend on the buyer's taste.

RS panels, crank windows, vent windows and ac removed are more for someone looking for a spartan, raw feeling to the car. Lightweight carpets are so-so, but the killer is the dashcap. The dashcaps I've seen are pretty bad and look chintzy.

With those mods, you will be looking for a specific buyer for the car. The other stuff mentioned about recent work is just maintenance items. If they weren't done, it would have to be done by the new owner and the offer would be adjusted accordingly.

My old car with some changes including fresh paint and motor is now for sale for $24.9k. 1985 Used Porsche 911 Carrera at Auto Connection LLC Serving Honolulu, HI, IID 10295381

These are the reasons I downgraded from upper to mid 20s down to mid to low 20s. Anything that limits the range of buyers reduces the price.

COLB · COLB's Garage

"Lightening" a Cab is a dubious choice in my view.

Most of the folk interested in major performance gains are going to be after coupes.

I think you are better off keeping a cab as close to stock as possible -- at least if you have any major concerns over market value. Obviously, owners should do whatever makes them happy.

gethelp · 06-15-2013, 01:47 PM

i have no concerns over the way making it lighter would hurt its value. it drives a lot more fun and i put coupes third behind even a targa. im a convertible junkie. and yes i know im in the def minority for liking coupes the least haha

COLB · COLB's Garage

don't get me wrong -- I love convertibles, and have one.

It is just a question of segregating your market -- mods almost always have selective appeal.

"light" mods are less common on cabs -- and are more likely to appeal to guys looking for DE cars. Generally these are coupes or targas.

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

That is a mid-teens car as described. I'd say $13-14K.

As Bryan says, the modifications make it a limited appeal.

Most buyers shopping a Carrera Cab will be comparing it to other 3.2 cars with standard door panels and power windows. For someone who understands the objective, the lightening mods may seem odd in a car retaining stock seats (which represent many times the weight savings of the door parts).

If you were to put it on the market, the one thing I would advise doing is putting in a used dash pad.

WPOZZZ · 06-15-2013, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLB

don't get me wrong -- I love convertibles, and have one.

It is just a question of segregating your market -- mods almost always have selective appeal.

"light" mods are less common on cabs -- and are more likely to appeal to guys looking for DE cars. Generally these are coupes or targas.

If a Porsche newb saw the car they wouldn't know about the RS door panels, but would wonder why it has crank and vent windows. I'm pretty sure they'd wonder why there was no ac.If they were smart, they would take it in for a PPI and the shop would point these out, if they didn't notice them. The shop would also wonder why it was done to a cab and might conclude it was in a wreck of some sort or the doors had rust issues.

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ

If a Porsche newb saw the car they wouldn't know about the RS door panels, but would wonder why it has crank and vent windows. I'm pretty sure they'd wonder why there was no ac.If they were smart, they would take it in for a PPI and the shop would point these out, if they didn't notice them. The shop would also wonder why it was done to a cab and might conclude it was in a wreck of some sort or the doors had rust issues.

Wreck, rust or prior theft.

The above are the main reasons we see cars like this on the market:

Porsche 911 Turbo Look 3.2 G50

gethelp · 06-15-2013, 05:06 PM

Thanks for all the information

I am not planning on selling mine just was gauging for a reference and to all who made certain assumptions..my car wasn't wrecked nor ever in any accidents but I made these changes because I do think

(a) The 911s should still have had opening vent windows from day one like they did in the 60s and 70s. They make a great improvement for an already enjoyable convertible.

(b) they should have had manual windows from day one. The car isn't big enough to need power windows so I yanked them at the first chance.

(c) YES my original manual seats were much lighter BUT were literally eaten by a dog before I got the car so I went in a different direction...I do think I could take my later sport seats and make them manual with a spacer and some manual rails by removing the motors.. I just have never looked into it

(d) Dashcaps are meh BUT it saves a 12 hr labor job and $600-$1500 that could be used for real life and not just our car passions lol

(e) I am a little unique in that I even sold off my whale tail because I hated it. (yes I did keep the front spoiler) and sold my 16 fuchs for the same reason. I LOVE having more rubber for the ride and road that I get from my 15 x7 and 15 x 8 fuchs.

(f) I do not race my car. I do not track my car. But when I got the car the interior was HORRIBLE so I thought most people rarely try this approach so I thought Id give it a shot. These cars are a joy to own and perform work on which is why we buy them. Each car is individual from the factory so I just added my own little flavor.

(g) I also think that ALL cars should get a PPI from an independent shop and would have nothing to hide.

Plus the sound of the flat pancake six from that oil/air-cooled 6 with the top down at high speeds? AMAZING.

gethelp · 06-15-2013, 05:09 PM

I forgot the last part

(h) the AC was always a JOKE and who needs it in a CONVERTIBLE?

LOL