OK if you see a 28K Mile Orange 914-6 pop up someone stole it at $34K from Orig fam

[gmund1948]

OK if you see a 28K Mile Orange 914-6 pop up someone stole it at $34K from Orig fam

Heads up it sold new at Stuttgart showroom Euro spec w/records

It was on the PCA Website for a day two bad I was the second caller

Hope it didn't end up being a flipper Someone in LA picked it up

[Ferrariguyma]

Congrats to them. It's nice to hear good deals can still be had.
Great color and RoW too.

[Matt Monson]

So let me see if I follow... You are complaining because someone beat you out on a "deal". I put deal in quotes because at that price the family did not get taken to the cleaners. They got a nice chunk if change for their car and your "watch out for a flipper" post makes you just sound like you got done sour grapes.

[Ferrariguyma]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

So let me see if I follow... You are complaining because someone beat you out on a "deal". I put deal in quotes because at that price the family did not get taken to the cleaners. They got a nice chunk if change for their car and your "watch out for a flipper" post makes you just sound like you got done sour grapes.

to make sour wine you need lots of sour grapes.

[Niche]

Stolen?! Lol. Please... what a ridiculous post.

[gmund1948]

I was posting it as Flippers have a tendency to put cars here

The elderly gentleman and family had a one ower fully documented 914-6 sold in Stuttgart with Original plates the car is documented 28K miles and has been restored at large expense including the original motor punched to 2.2, Cams carbs and original interior. 6 or more "dealers" sometimes referred to as "stealers" tried to buy the car I believe the Vin ended in 333 and the buyerin California was supposed to have a t with the same last numbers of the VIn

I have an adversion to people who represent themselves as huge collectors who will keep the cars for themselves and then after a few bucks are added flip them to make 10 -20 grand.

This was indeed a good buy, I post here seldom and yes wish I got it but I have more than enough cars. There is a fine line here and I hope a Porsche enthusiast got this car and will do what needs done and keep it going

4-Ss 1-E 6-Ts 2Ls 2 356s 3 993s and others not mentioned

[Wiese]

Gee, guys, its a 914...

[gmund1948]

914/6 are trading above the 911Ts there were few made
One changed hands original 99K miles for $70K

Bodies by Karman engine and drivetrain by Porsche

[Matt Monson]

4-Ss 1-E 6-Ts 2Ls 2 356s 3 993s and others not mentioned

So the way you justify your petulant post is to brag about how big your collection is and show us that you really deserved this car over the guy who bought it because you really really need another car?

Get over it already. And quit talking down to us like we don't know what these cars are or what they are worth. The more you post the more of a self righteous jerk you sound, at least to me.

If the seller spent all that money restoring it, and asked that much for it, they had a reasonable idea of what it was worth. They got what they wanted out of it. They don't need you to baby sit them. Were you going to walk in and say,"no no no! Your price is too low. Can I please pay you $45k instead of your asking price?"

[gmund1948]

To limit flippers my collection is adding creedence to the fact that I have enough Cars

You do not know me yet you judge me should I be cained as well !!


w“There has never been a truly selfless rebel, just hypocrites—conscious hypocrites or unconscious hypocrites, it’s all the same.”
― Frank Herbert, God Emperor of Dune

[Matt Monson]

Actually I am not judging you so much as suggesting that he who is without sin should cast the first stone.

And while you fancy yourself a rescuer maybe this crusade of a thread is ill founded.

[gmund1948]

My point is to educate, I am not without Sin, nor will I in this life time

By posting this the people know what was paid and someone got a good deal and the flippers
Dealers some (Stealers) to some if they were to get ahold of it a price paid is in history

That said I have no issue with profit, the housing bubble taught us, the Spanish, the Greeks and
many others a lesson don't Overpay

I am really not fancy, Overweight and Balding. But I did this as a service I do not post to piss people off
and I am sorry if this did so, I have seen guys on both coasts buy something here do almost nothing to it and try and sell it on other boards a week later at twice the money. That is the debate.

I am a hobbyist but when I went to see a car a dealer put steel wool and overcoat the top and bottom of rust holes with the thickest undercoat I have ever seen he then added 10K to what he paid for it. not always the case but this is a place where people look out for each other

Peace and lets preserve some Porsches

"A product that is coherent in form requires no embellishment".

Ferdinand Alexander Porsche.

[Matt Monson]

Sorry, it's not personal. I've grown tired of the flipper police around here and this car is somewhat ridiculous to me. It's not some widow who got taken on an old Speedster for $2,000 and its now on Jalopnik for $200,000.

This car might get flipped. This buyer might make $10k, he might make $25k. But the spin that the seller got ripped off is the part I can't really stomach. They sold a car that they purchase for about $5k new for 7 times that. If the next guy makes some money on it, big whoop!

[gmund1948]

However I talked to the owner and his biggest concern ( as was his families ) they were elderly and they wanted to go to an enthusiast they were adamant to see it go to a good home. They were so passionate I broke my relative silence and posted it. They had more than they were asking in it, and had stored it for How many years ?

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Sorry, it's not personal. I've grown tired of the flipper police around here and this car is somewhat ridiculous to me. It's not some widow who got taken on an old Speedster for $2,000 and its now on Jalopnik for $200,000.

This car might get flipped. This buyer might make $10k, he might make $25k. But the spin that the seller got ripped off is the part I can't really stomach. They sold a car that they purchase for about $5k new for 7 times that. If the next guy makes some money on it, big whoop!

But by robbing parts and making shabby repairs, the flippers are not helping anyone but themselves

A story of mine true
Here is something that happened to me. One of my first Porsche lessons
An independent in Oregon filed a mechanics lean on my 71 914/6 silver w LSD that was paid in advance to restore ( for years ) an I was ready to pull it. After a number of years while I was working overseas filed a mechanics lean and had a friend buy it for $1500, Retitle and sell a low mileage 914/6 overseas while I was out of the country. I still have the clear Oregon Title in my name

Guy has no money so my lawyer said you can't get blood from a turnip so why throw good after bad

Head of the worldwide 914/6 club thinks he has located it and we will use international law to settle the claim

Hope that helps but flipping is not always good for the community

[914agogo]

it will get to an enthusiast maybe via 1 or 2 flippers, just a matter of time and money...

[thepenguin99]

Your personal story is, at best, fraud. At worst, theft. Flipping has nothing to do with that.

[914agogo]

quote "But by robbing parts and making shabby repairs, the flippers are not helping anyone but themselves "
I take offense to that statement, the opposite is exactly what I, as a flipper, engage in.
I almost always add parts or replace with the correct parts if the car has been changed from original
i.e seats, wheels ect.. and make quality corrective repairs where needed.
I add an original orange bar hood badge to every early car that is missing. So stop stereotyping.

[gmund1948]

914agogo I did stereotype, I did not take into consideration the ones who add value to the vehicle and then sell it on usually much better sorted and take pride in their work. In any other industry they are often called VAR for value added reseller

there is a good side of everything. and I started the thread due to the wishes of a seller
and to document it in case if was flipped in a hurry

Thanks for making me think

As far as my 914/6 Well you live and learn, but throwing another 10K at it with legal
the guy has nothing so its an empty hole

“There has never been a truly selfless rebel, just hypocrites—conscious hypocrites or unconscious hypocrites, it’s all the same.”
― Frank Herbert, God Emperor of Dune

Originally Posted by 914agogo

quote "But by robbing parts and making shabby repairs, the flippers are not helping anyone but themselves "
I take offense to that statement, the opposite is exactly what I, as a flipper, engage in.
I almost always add parts or replace with the correct parts if the car has been changed from original
i.e seats, wheels ect.. and make quality corrective repairs where needed.
I add an original orange bar hood badge to every early car that is missing. So stop stereotyping.

[914agogo]

VAR (value added reseller)that's a new term I havent heard ...I like it.

[techweenie]

I'm a VAR, myself, usually "seeing" something in a car that others don't, or IOW being blind and foolish.

I recently re-purchased a car I sold in 2005 that just needed too much work. But in 2013, the prices justify that work. So I have $10,000+ in chassis repair now and the car looks exactly like it did when I paid $3500 for it. When it's painted and has a hot rod drivetrain, I'm going to be asking around $45,000 for it. That's what a VAR does. Big difference from a "flipper," IMO. But I'm not averse to flipping if someone wants to pay more than I have in a car at any stage of the process. So there's that.

As for the OP, it's obviously an old wound, but has nothing to do with the rest of us. The seller of the 914-6 got his money. The buyer can do as he pleases. If somebody offers him $35K for the car and he sells, is he a flipper, or just someone who realizes in the cold light of day how much work the car is going to need? Hard to know. And no reason to invest any emotion in it.

*My experience with VARs came from the early computer industry where hardware was sold to a reseller who bundled it with software for a specific industry. I had a few as clients.