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What does "refreshed" mean to you?
I'm interested in what it means to you when a seller says a motor has been "refreshed". Obviously, experienced buyers would ask. But what is your first impression when you see a car advertised as the engine having been "refreshed"?
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01-01-2014, 05:10 PM
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doesn't mean a damn thing to me.
I want to hear what was done. Rings? Pistons? Main bearings? Valves? Refreshed could mean anything and that usually means nothing.
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01-01-2014, 05:30 PM
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It's not specific enough. Could mean a reseal, a top end rebuild, or just replacing hoses and wires.
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01-01-2014, 06:04 PM
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If doesn't say something along the lines of "top end overhaul" or "complete overhaul" or "rebuilt" with paperwork - it doesn't mean anything.
Refreshed what??
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01-02-2014, 04:47 AM
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I am feeling so refreshed.....
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01-02-2014, 05:26 AM
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To me, "refreshed" equates a "tune up"...nothing more.
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01-02-2014, 06:55 AM
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Sprayed with Lemon juice?
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01-02-2014, 08:09 AM
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unless it comes with receipts from a shop I trust, it means I'm looking at the next car on the list
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01-02-2014, 08:11 AM
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"refreshed" = generic sales term.
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01-02-2014, 08:39 AM
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I was looking at a car for sale just a few weeks ago(maybe the same one) that had a "recent engine out refresh". I was thinking a top end rebuild-Sounds good doesn't it. I called the shop that did the work and found that they simply fixed an oil leak. The car also had the "transmission refreshed" and found that they fixed a leak and changed the fluid. My lesson learned here is don't assume anything, get the facts.
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01-02-2014, 08:50 AM
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8 or more hours of sleep!?
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Marvel Mystery oil?
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01-02-2014, 09:43 AM
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01-02-2014, 10:03 AM
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Isn't that what woman do each month?
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01-02-2014, 01:24 PM
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01-02-2014, 01:31 PM
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Refresh obviously means different things to different people so asking the person saying it is the answer.
but for me it means a reseal of the engine and rings and valve grind and maybe guides, and a new timing drive if overhead cam. |
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01-02-2014, 01:58 PM
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Sounds to me like a topic a scorned women would like clarification on.
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01-02-2014, 02:08 PM
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I'd say refreshed means an oil change, cap, rotor, possibly CIS seals/o-rings, the triangle, belt, valve adjustment - that's about it.
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01-02-2014, 02:42 PM
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I agree with CountD Tune up of easy things to do and possible shampoo. When you refresh your computer screen it is a quick update of the screen being reviewed. Not a rebuild of the harddrive. Thanks ROB
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01-05-2014, 12:10 AM
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First "one"
Kremer 930
Rosie
