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ASD 03-03-2014 10:11 AM

Is this overly optimistic or?
 
Are mid 80's cars really bringing 30 grand?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/799283-1986-meteor-metallic-coupe-sport-seats.html

COLB 03-03-2014 10:23 AM

It is optimistic, but most dealers are testing the mid-30s with good cars.

Asking isn't getting -- and I'm not judging this specific car, but that is a standard-looking dealer price.

Nice color, and a coupe. Don't know anything about the dealer. I would look into it, but my engine is on the garage floor, begging to be re-installed.

dporsche74 03-03-2014 12:47 PM

Its back to a sellers market ... the 1% is richer then ever :) !!!

Skillet83 03-03-2014 04:27 PM

Not a bad starting point for a seller. Ask away and see what happens. Not out of the realm, but do not ask sm, he will say that high mileage unit is way over priced. Sellers market at the moment, go for it.

6300 RPMs 03-03-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by COLB (Post 7941657)
Don't know anything about the dealer.

Well here's some info on this dealer! He screws up many fleabay car auctions for sellers by bidding high to find out/show the reserve price. Then a minute later he retracts his bid. Days later he re-bids lower. He has 48 bid retractions and counting. Then he even had the balls to call the seller {which one of was a buddy on mind} to try and get it for a lower price. He was reported to fleabay rite away, but we all know they don't really care even though they say: "You accidentally enter a wrong bid amount (for example, you bid $99.50 instead of $9.95). If this occurs, re-enter the correct bid amount immediately."

His fleabay name is: drdtrade

Look at the bids on this examble: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-SC-Targa-911-SC-Targa-Classic-Manual-Transmision-/131128762651?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1e87e2211b&i tem=131128762651&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

SilberUrS6 03-03-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ASD (Post 7941632)

If they are very nice, yes they can bring that much. The photo doesn't help the pricing.

A reasonably rare color for a 3.2, sport seats, records and decent miles.

Certainly high twenties - $30k is not a stretch. And if you just HAVE to have Meteor Grey, then the extra premium might be worth it - if everything else checks out.

whiterabbit 03-03-2014 05:34 PM

If its excellent condition and stock I don't think the price is unreasonable, Not too may in that color with sport seats.

ASD 03-04-2014 08:16 AM

Interesting ... I am not looking to sell my SC but nice to know if I was that the values are getting stronger. Our relationship is too long - 21 years

sm70911 03-04-2014 08:37 AM

$33k for a MG coupe. Great color yes and 86 is the best year for the Carrera. But without a top end not worth more than low - mid twenties. Although the rear wiper is a nice option, for that number I would expect, OG paint, and some special factory options, beyond the wiper & Sport seats.
The seller asks ambitious prices. Check the Plat metallic SC he had on here and now languisihing on E bay

PushingMyLuck 03-04-2014 03:53 PM

$33k would be the price for a G50 coupe with under $100k.
3.2 coupe 915 with 110k that is pristine is more like $25k-$28k

Canine64 03-04-2014 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6300 RPMs (Post 7942369)
Well here's some info on this dealer! He screws up many fleabay car auctions for sellers by bidding high to find out/show the reserve price. Then a minute later he retracts his bid. Days later he re-bids lower. He has 48 bid retractions and counting. Then he even had the balls to call the seller {which one of was a buddy on mind} to try and get it for a lower price. He was reported to fleabay rite away, but we all know they don't really care even though they say: "You accidentally enter a wrong bid amount (for example, you bid $99.50 instead of $9.95). If this occurs, re-enter the correct bid amount immediately."

His fleabay name is: drdtrade

Look at the bids on this examble: Porsche 911 SC Targa | eBay

Thanks for the heads up. Pretty much epitomizes everything that is wrong with the current 911 market. The professional flipper and obnoxious dealer has ruined the fun for the true 911 enthusiast. Can't wait for them to find another marque to ruin.

msort81 03-04-2014 04:58 PM

A good looking car but I'm not sure how he is justifying that price. It might be my old peepers but I don't see really special / rare options apart from the desirable factory short shifter. Sport seats are nice and Looks like it has a later CR radio, and the wrong door speakers. I wonder if its got all its history intact.
What is interesting about this is the staging of the car here on Pelican, and presumably Rennlist before trying to sell it on E-bay. I'm assuming he wants a deal before actually listing it hence the listing it in five days countdown he has going on. He had that Platinum SC on ebay for a while, again a nice looking car, but I did think that one was all the money for a high mileage SC.

speeder 03-04-2014 06:22 PM

It looks like a really nice car, well cared-for and pleasing colors, etc. Certainly in the top 10% or so of what I've seen in 3.2 Carreras advertised. I've never considered Meteor grey to be some super-duper color, but it's nice.

I sold Porsches at the dealer when this car was new. 1986 is indeed a great year, last of the 915 cars that I greatly prefer to G50 cars and the best 915 trans, etc. It's not a heavily optioned car, it has partial leather, (standard equipment), a sunroof and sport seats. It sits on 6/7s which are factory correct but any self-respecting enthusiast would want to upgrade to 7/8s and a few other accepted mods that increase the enjoyment and value of these cars. When I look at a car like this, I immediately start a ticker-tape of the cost of all the things I'd need to do to it to make it perfect. Stock 3.2 Carreras are slower than pig slop and don't handle particularly well. I recently drove a 1988 G50 coupe in concours condition with low miles, absolutely a 10 in every way and all I could think was how incredibly slow it was.

Anyhow...nice car and can't comment on the price because I'm apparently behind the times by a couple years. A friend bought a nearly perfect, black/black G50 targa with half the miles 2 years ago for $16.5k. I thought it was a good deal at the time. :cool:

deathpunk dan 03-07-2014 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6300 RPMs (Post 7942369)
Well here's some info on this dealer! He screws up many fleabay car auctions for sellers by bidding high to find out/show the reserve price. Then a minute later he retracts his bid. Days later he re-bids lower. He has 48 bid retractions and counting. Then he even had the balls to call the seller {which one of was a buddy on mind} to try and get it for a lower price. He was reported to fleabay rite away, but we all know they don't really care even though they say: "You accidentally enter a wrong bid amount (for example, you bid $99.50 instead of $9.95). If this occurs, re-enter the correct bid amount immediately."

His fleabay name is: drdtrade

Look at the bids on this examble: 911 SC Targa Classic Manual Transmision | eBay

this is total scumbag stuff. If this is true, the guy should be banned from this forum (and ebay...and word should get out). F these people.

BK911 03-07-2014 08:53 AM

Oh wow, I really like that car.

PushingMyLuck 03-08-2014 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 7944565)
Stock 3.2 Carreras are slower than pig slop and don't handle particularly well.
I recently drove a 1988 G50 coupe in concours condition with low miles, absolutely a 10 in every way and all I could think was how incredibly slow it was.

"slower than pig slop"?
Why aren't there 50 posts calling this guy a troll?
Speeder, you seem like an objective guy. Can you tell me more about why you feel performance of the 3.2 does not meet your standards?
Please choose your words wisely, or you will get crapped on

metzger 03-08-2014 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PushingMyLuck (Post 7951219)
"slower than pig slop"?
Why aren't there 50 posts calling this guy a troll?
Speeder, you seem like an objective guy. Can you tell me more about why you feel performance of the 3.2 does not meet your standards?
Please choose your words wisely, or you will get crapped on

Quote:

Originally Posted by PushingMyLuck
I'm not dropping $50,000 for a car that supposedly drives worse than a Civic

Why are you still here?

matt f 03-08-2014 01:13 PM

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SilberUrS6 03-08-2014 01:29 PM

Uh, oh. Looks like the village idiot has come back from time-out. I wonder how long it'll be until his NEXT time out?

Matt Monson 03-08-2014 01:46 PM

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RacerX1166 03-08-2014 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PushingMyLuck (Post 7951219)
"slower than pig slop"?
Why aren't there 50 posts calling this guy a troll?
Speeder, you seem like an objective guy. Can you tell me more about why you feel performance of the 3.2 does not meet your standards?
Please choose your words wisely, or you will get crapped on

What's been your experience driving various Porsches?

Beyond that, what's the point of your post beyond returning to the same behavior that got you banned last time?

speeder 03-08-2014 04:37 PM

Am I suppose to not respond to this guy? :)

speeder 03-08-2014 04:38 PM

I could list all of the Porsches I've owned in 40 years but they would not fit in the alloted space for sig lines. :)

MrBonus 03-08-2014 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 7951466)
I could list all of the Porsches I've owned in 40 years but they would not fit in the alloted space for sig lines. :)

But how many Hondas?

metzger 03-08-2014 07:09 PM

I've owned two Hondas. One had a SI swap do it didn't get the fuel economy I was looking for and the other was a modified 954RR and I feared for my life. Hoping to find a Porsche that lands in the middle, but more on the fear for my life side.

rw229 03-08-2014 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PushingMyLuck (Post 7951219)
"slower than pig slop"?
Why aren't there 50 posts calling this guy a troll?
Speeder, you seem like an objective guy. Can you tell me more about why you feel performance of the 3.2 does not meet your standards?
Please choose your words wisely, or you will get crapped on

Speeder is definitely not a Troll, and he's right. You're just missing some context that the audience as owners of 80's 911s understands... or at least I do.

Please don't ask for a further explanation as those who own them probably get it and explaining it to someone who doesn't would be too complicated to properly convey without you having hands-on knowledge. I could insert a 1/2 dozen analogies here, but hopefully you understand that.

wally509 03-09-2014 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metzger (Post 7951672)
I've owned two Hondas. One had a SI swap do it didn't get the fuel economy I was looking for and the other was a modified 954RR and I feared for my life. Hoping to find a Porsche that lands in the middle, but more on the fear for my life side.

I believe you're looking for a 996tt then...

SilberUrS6 03-09-2014 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rw229 (Post 7951756)
You're just missing some context that the audience as owners of 80's 911s understands... or at least I do.

In general, PushingMyTrolling eliminates context on purpose in order to create and sustain controversy. And he loves to keep stirring the pot in order to make sure the threads go on and on and on.

He's not interested in Porsche, or in buying a 911, or in actually learning anything. He merely here to fling schitt around and generally make an asch of himself.

Matt Monson 03-09-2014 07:17 AM

Quote:

I've owned two Hondas. One had a SI swap do it didn't get the fuel economy I was looking for and the other was a modified 954RR and I feared for my life. Hoping to find a Porsche that lands in the middle, but more on the fear for my life side.
I've owned two ZC swaps, one in a 3G AWD wagon and one in a 4g AWD wagon. Both really fun little cars that got me hooked on the rally bug. That's how I started down the Subaru path. I've done about a dozen JDM swaps on early imprezas and Legacies, a few that I owned and a few that I was paid to perform.

metzger 03-09-2014 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wally509 (Post 7951954)
I believe you're looking for a 996tt then...

I guess I should clarify that I'm looking for a different kind of thrill than just sheer speed. My slowest car has without a doubt been my most fun and difficult to control car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 7952125)
I've owned two ZC swaps, one in a 3G AWD wagon and one in a 4g AWD wagon. Both really fun little cars that got me hooked on the rally bug. That's how I started down the Subaru path. I've done about a dozen JDM swaps on early imprezas and Legacies, a few that I owned and a few that I was paid to perform.

Interesting to see peoples backgrounds here. I don't think of most Porsche owners coming from a path of Hondas or Subarus, but they're all fun cars. I started out a Ford guy with a ridiculous '88 Crown Victoria with a built 331 stroker, then I bought a Nissan 300ZX and went through a couple S14 240s and the old Celica while DD'ing various Lexus and BMWs. I like them all.

Matt Monson 03-09-2014 07:45 AM

Call it economic. I grew up in the Bay Area on a diet of vintage racecars and IMSA Camel racing. In 1988 I got the dream summer job of being a detailer and driver at a luxury exotic broker. Drove my first 930, Testarossa, and Countach that summer.
During college I became an extreme athlete, climbing, biking and skiing anything you could go up and down. Spent a decade in that career, which is when I started modding cars.
But the love of Porsches never left and my high school vow to own one by 30 was always a goal. Missed it by a couple of years, but when I was offered a job at Carquip I saw my chance. That began my next career in the Pcar aftermarket about 12 years ago.

speeder 03-09-2014 09:29 AM

I like any car that I like. And I hate snobs and ignorance, which seem to go together. Great crowd here.

techweenie 03-09-2014 10:48 AM

Well, back to the topic, comments on the seller aside, that is a robust price, but not out of line. I see the sport seats as a significant value add to the right buyer and the color is +15%, IMO.

If the car were red, $29,500 would be the right price (and I just happen to know of one).


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