Interesting.

Many of the most frequent posters here -- who discuss car prices and values -- tend to be optimistic on values, particularly from private sellers -- and catch a lot of flak for supposedly fanning the flames of the market.

Perhaps the guys getting mad about optimistic price estimates are the ones trying to buy low… ;)

One Pelican buyer made me a legit offer. Honestly, the rest of the pelican crowd were just time wasters, looky loos and tire kickers. Pelican has changed a lot in 7 years.

I wouldn't know. But I would think there is a fair bit of crossover between here and rennlist.

You contacted the seller of the blue coupe in DC. Are you looking seriously at it?

Do you think it is priced appropriately?

Yes I believe it is priced fairly. Definitely not a high twenties car. I have a friend interested in it but the paint is ok. Dust and painted rubber. Suspension/shocks are original. No turbo tie rods. Lots of little things to fix. Cracked dash. Warped door pockets. Split seams on the seat. Worn leather on the seats (which is normal for original interiors).

Having owned several SCs over the years and having just sold one, this car is decent but not a high twenties car. The difference between the car I just sold and this one is huge. My friend mentioned to me that it would take way more than $8000 to make this car as nice as the one I just sold.

I guess a nerve was plucked when the same guy that said my car was a mid twenties car said this was a high twenties car. My car and this car are apples and oranges.

Can someone post a photo of what warped door pockets look like?

Basically the door pocket changes shape from age and heat and does not match the curvature of the hinged top.

Thanks.

I wonder if the PO painted it himself.

Of course, counting plane tickets, travel expenses, and shipping costs, the German must have paid over $32k for your car!

Since he is a dealer, I assume he is buying a number of cars while over here to justify the trip.

Or maybe he is the German equivalent of Mike Brewer, and he is going to change your wheels, add new trim, replace a wheel bearing for his German TV show -- Vieluhr Diehluhrs. Then charge an extra 1300 Euro and call it "profit."

No way in hell this is an upper 20s car. Rebuilding the engine and gearbox in the low 100k mi is proper maintenance, not value added. This is a decent driver SC in a neat color. $18-20k. SCs over $20k need to be a lot more pristine then this one. This is just a nice car.

He bought it for his personal collection. The pasha optioned interior is apparently extremely rare in a 911. He had other business here. The cars of this era are much cheaper, more plentiful and much nicer than what is available there according to him.

Agree 100% but SilberUrs6 doesn't think so.

Your car was a ROW with no sunroof. No surprise it was sold to someone in Germany. It was way better than the car being discussed here IMHO.

With the additional info, I agree.

I still think the rebuilds add value in this case. Why? Because these cars are looking at rebuilds (sometimes) above 100K miles. If this car needed both rebuilds, it would have slightly above parts car value - runners, even runners that need drivetrain rehabilitation, get more money. Since the rebuilds are very recent, the new owner doesn't have to even think about it for ten years or more. Which bumps the baseline, IMO.

The advice (and Marketplace discussion) remains exactly the same. Get a PPI, and know what a fix will cost before you try and negotiate pricing. Don't fall in love! Use your head, and don't get all starry-eyed over pretty pictures and slick ad copy.

Owner just informed me he has an offer pending.

I thought it would sell quick. It sounded like an honest, enthusiast owned car with recent major system maintenance -- competitively priced.

A perfect car for someone not interested in a concours trailer queen.

The biggest issue for me with the car is that it is hard for me to imagine owning a coupe without A/C. I still have memories of driving my first cars in Texas without functional A/C, and it was unfun.

Obviously a regional issue, and a desirable "feature" for many buyers.

The problem with SC and Carrera ACs is they suck. If you hold out on a car waiting for it to have AC you will be poorly disappointed when you start driving the car in the heat. Open windows ftw.

"The white/pasha car sold for 28k and is headed back to Germany. A dealer bought it. He felt like there was a lot of room left for him to make money on this car even after shipping ... "
A few posts later ... "He bought it for his personal collection"

In between whiny posts about Pelican its more of the usual slippery stuff from sprbxr.

For my car, it is top down FTW.

But I like to drive all year, and a sunny day over 92 degrees erodes the charm of al fresco driving.

I wouldn't dismiss a car with a non-functional A/C -- that is almost expected. I just wouldn't want a factory non-A/C car.

A/Cs are definitely a chore, but can be functional with some work.

One of my first ownership projects was to get the A/C working on my Cab. I had decent success that lasted through the summer -- for the cost of new O-Rings, receiver/drier, R134 fittings, and the guages and vacuum pump to evacuate/charge the system: around $200.

This year it gets a new expansion valve, and a recharge.

If I move back to Texas, I may go with barrier hoses and a condensor & evaporator upgrades.

My '86 blew cold for two years after a recharge. Having owned an '85 and an '86, I can tell you that even on vent mode the changes to the '86 dash make a big difference. IMO the '86 is the best 915 trannied IB car.

sm70911 you are hilarious.

That is what he told me. I have no reason to not believe him. Why would he fly here to look at 3 cars, buy one and ship it back to Germany? I guess we will see if it shows up for sale again. I really couldn't care what he does with it. It is his car now.

He told you two separate conflicting statements that you feel need to be reported verbatim ? ... How does that benefit the discourse here ... hmmm