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Tennessee911 06-02-2014 05:41 PM

Hypothetical SC Question
 
3 identical cars--color, mileage, service records, paint, body, trim and rubber condition.

What is the difference in expected sales price now and your guess in 10 years for a 1983 SC:

Coupe

Targa

Cab

Thanks for your opinions.

SilberUrS6 06-02-2014 06:26 PM

More.

blau911 06-03-2014 10:34 PM

Cab will be worth more. First , it's a cab. With the exception of a handful of collector cars, cabs are always worth more. They cost more new as well. As regards the 83SC model year, it was the first year in which Porsche offered a 911 as a real cab (as opposed to a targa top).

christiandk 06-04-2014 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blau911 (Post 8098231)
Cab will be worth more. First , it's a cab. With the exception of a handful of collector cars, cabs are always worth more. They cost more new as well. As regards the 83SC model year, it was the first year in which Porsche offered a 911 as a real cab (as opposed to a targa top).

The rarest will almost always be worth more - In the case of SCīs - the cab, like blau said.

Later 3.2īs - the coupe - far less produced.

Reddy Kilowatt 06-04-2014 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiandk (Post 8098431)
The rarest will almost always be worth more - In the case of SCīs - the cab, like blau said.

Later 3.2īs - the coupe - far less produced.

What on earth are you talking about?

christiandk 06-04-2014 05:26 AM

As far as I recall less coupes were made in 88 and 89 that targas and cabs? I may be wrong - will check up on it when I get home.

Reddy Kilowatt 06-04-2014 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiandk (Post 8098457)
As far as I recall less coupes were made in 88 and 89 that targas and cabs? I may be wrong - will check up on it when I get home.

Ignoring Japan, Club Sport, Speedster and Turbos:
1988 MY
Coupes
ROW - 3381
US - 2916
--------------
Total - 6297

Cabs
ROW - 1464
US - 2653
--------------
Total - 4117

Targas
ROW - 1354
US - 2232
--------------
Total - 3586


1989 MY
Coupes
ROW - 3532
US - 1156
--------------
Total - 4688

Cabs
ROW - 2787
US - 1361
--------------
Total - 4148

Targas
ROW - 1063
US - 860
--------------
Total - 1923

christiandk 06-04-2014 05:36 AM

Well Reddy, if you take the cabs and targas as one, then the coupe is rarer ;)

Thanks for posting the numbers, though.

Reddy Kilowatt 06-04-2014 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiandk (Post 8098476)
Well Reddy, if you take the cabs and targas as one, then the coupe is rarer ;)

Thanks for posting the numbers, though.

Sure, cabs and targas are the same. No question about that.

Dave Colangelo 06-04-2014 06:11 AM

More but you will be looking at a decline in demand at that time for this era of car. I have a theory on car sales. At any given time the most expensive cars are the ones that were fast and famous when the current 40-50 year old (midlife crisis era) generation was in middle/high school. It is this bracket of people who have the money to buy the race cars they pinned on their wall when they were kids.

I watched it happen with my 31 Ford. My grandfather restored it when he retired. When I was very young I remember older men coming up and asking about the car all the time. They would make crazy offers on it and tell stories of how they had one in their youth. As time went on these people became less and less and now almost no one recognizes the car. As these people pass away the consumer base for a vintage car like that shrinks very fast. The prices have fallen although the car still holds value as any well kept vintage car would.

You can assume that the car will go up simply based on the facts that they are not making more air cooled 911's (yet...) and a Porsche (or any vintage sports car) will always have value to someone.

I would advise you to look at the 356 market over the past few years. As prices on the long hoods have shoot through the roof to almost unheard of levels the prices on 356's have really softened. The 150K 356 pre A has been replaced by the 150K early 911 S.

To your point, it seems that the Coupes sell for a bit more than the cab/targa although the cab/targa's are GREAT cars and as every one has always said, super undervalued. They will all be worth more in 10 years than they are now. To give an example, 5 years ago I paid 9K for a 78 Targa in ok condition (mechanically solid, esthetically needed work). I have done nothing but drive it and I could easily sell it for twice that now.

Regards
Dave

Sunroof 06-04-2014 08:30 AM

Coupe...............

Drivers car. Hands down.

Matt Monson 06-04-2014 10:13 AM

In ten years the cab will be worth 10-15% more than the coupes and targas. Coupes and targas will be worth about the same as each other.

christiandk 06-04-2014 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 8099044)
In ten years the cab will be worth 10-15% more than the coupes and targas. Coupes and targas will be worth about the same as each other.

Willing to take a bet on that?

kennykimk2 06-04-2014 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddy Kilowatt (Post 8098471)
Ignoring Japan, Club Sport, Speedster and Turbos:
1988 MY
Coupes
ROW - 3381
US - 2916
--------------
Total - 6297

Cabs
ROW - 1464
US - 2653
--------------
Total - 4117

Targas
ROW - 1354
US - 2232
--------------
Total - 3586


1989 MY
Coupes
ROW - 3532
US - 1156
--------------
Total - 4688

Cabs
ROW - 2787
US - 1361
--------------
Total - 4148

Targas
ROW - 1063
US - 860
--------------
Total - 1923

Great info.
Do you know stats on the Turbo for 88 & 89?

Thanks for sharing.

Kenny

blau911 06-04-2014 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunroof (Post 8098830)
Coupe...............

Drivers car. Hands down.


They are all "driver's" cars.


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