somebody got a solid deal...

[NYNick]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/819123-1971-porsche-911t-2-7-factory-irish-green-turbo-look-coupe.html

They're out there.

[speeder]

I didn't know that there was such a thing as a 1971 turbo look coupe. Might explain the price.

[tedg04]

Originally Posted by speeder

I didn't know that there was such a thing as a 1971 turbo look coupe. Might explain the price.

+1

Looks like a nice driver, but not a high dollar longhood. Non-original motor or trans, body/color change, and style 'updates'. Lots not to like if you're collecting, but still a good car to enjoy.

[Matt Monson]

It's a drivers hot rod. There's a seat for every butt. I'd drive it.

[Macroni]

I agree great deal for someone w/ a hankerin' for a hotrod.....

[COLB]

I'm going to say it again -- if the wheels on the car don't come with it, then don't freaking show them in the pictures.

Yeah, first line, bold, all caps notice -- I don't care -- change the freaking wheels and advertise the car in the condition you intend to sell it.

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[Matt Monson]

I just take that kind of stuff and use it to beat them up on price, especially if the not for sale wheels are on the car when I show up to buy it. Then I push hard to get them in the deal. People are lazy. Sometimes you can use that fir your own gain.

[pmax]

Is this the same car ?

quote: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/797730-1971-porsche-911t-project-73e-motor-gearbox-factory-irish-green.html

Project '71T, factory Euro car originally Irish Green (1515)!

Had been sitting for decades but we've gotten it out and running. Was updated to turbo look in 80's with all steel fenders front and rear, comes with some great parts.

Engine is 1973 2.4E (911E) 911/53 with matching magnesium case 7:31 915 gearbox. Has Italian 40IDT3C Webers that need rebuilding (rebuild kits go with the car), carbs in the photos are a fresh set I put on just to run it.

Interior is in excellent shape, orig dash is basically perfect, great carpets, factory door panels and rear seats, package tray etc. Optional leather wrapped wheel and S gauges.

The car runs well and drives around the shop but I didn't want to put fuel through the old lines so I've run it on an auxiliary fuel pump from a fresh supply. Fuel system will need some work unless you really want to risk 40 year old lines.

Would be great to convert back to an Irish Green RSR replica, somewhat easily and reasonably by selling these fenders and replacing with glass RSR fenders and hood. Car has some rust in rockers and front suspension pan needs replacing but everything else is very clean, cowl, rear package tray, rear seat bottoms, etc are all perfect.

I have brand new Restoration Designs front suspension pan and gas tank support ($400) that I'll include with sale. Carrera tail is not a factory piece but it does have a rare '68-'69 3 bar grill. Paint shows nicer in pics than it really is.

NO tire kickers Please. Car is at my mechanics right now, he could pretty easily make this a driver with fuel system and brake work.

Located in SF. Cash only please - $19,500

[blau911]

That is a deal?
perhaps if it were a nice clean original SC with 100k or less miles, it would be a deal. Or if it were a 71 911T with original paint color and no impact bumper conversion, and the incorrect 2.7, it would be a good deal. But it is neither. This car will cost 20-35k and lots of man hours and Porsche forum parts surfing to make back into a nice clean non matching numbers 71T with a non matching 71T motor. If you are going to go that route, why not just spend an extra $10k and get yourself a nice clean original 2.2T. There are a few out there for $50-60k at any given time, and save yourself the hassle of stripping the car, repairing the rust, converting the crappy impact bumper conversion panels back to original LWB, finding all of the various original pieces that have been sold off from the car flippers who have bastardized this car, and restoring it back as close as possible to its original state.
The only thing that could make this car even remotely desirable to me would be its price - at well under $20k, it could be a decent driver or weekend track car with a different motor. This car has zero collector value, and that is where the big money is being spent.

[Macroni]

I liked it..... I would strongly consider the chassis as foundation for a long hood hotrod.....

[pu911]

That car was a steal for $25k
Phil

[BK911]

Originally Posted by pu911

That car was a steal for $25k
Phil

For the seller!!

[HugoBear]

I don't think it is a great deal at all but seems like it would be a fun car to drive. I wouldn't think it is worth trying to change that car from what it is right now. The proof is it sat for awhile, not too long but if it was a really good deal, it would have been gone in a day or less.

[NYNick]

My point is/was that in this market, someone looking to get a nice, drivable Porsche for a decent amount of money would do alright with it.
Of course we're not talking a collector, or restoration or even going back to original. We're talking about a $25K car that you can get in and drive your pants off….and tinker away if your so desire.

I said 'solid deal', not great. I think it would be fun, and I don't think you'd lose money in the long run either. JMHO.

[Matt Monson]

Nick, I agree 100%.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by blau911

That is a deal?
perhaps if it were a nice clean original SC with 100k or less miles, it would be a deal. Or if it were a 71 911T with original paint color and no impact bumper conversion, and the incorrect 2.7, it would be a good deal. But it is neither. This car will cost 20-35k and lots of man hours and Porsche forum parts surfing to make back into a nice clean non matching numbers 71T with a non matching 71T motor. If you are going to go that route, why not just spend an extra $10k and get yourself a nice clean original 2.2T. There are a few out there for $50-60k at any given time, and save yourself the hassle of stripping the car, repairing the rust, converting the crappy impact bumper conversion panels back to original LWB, finding all of the various original pieces that have been sold off from the car flippers who have bastardized this car, and restoring it back as close as possible to its original state.
The only thing that could make this car even remotely desirable to me would be its price - at well under $20k, it could be a decent driver or weekend track car with a different motor. This car has zero collector value, and that is where the big money is being spent.

I agree 100%, this car is a ghetto pile of schit. But of course I'm old and from another time when there were good cars for sale all over the place. Even if it was original, it would be a 2.2 911T. Those are about as exciting as banging your wife.

[blau911]

Originally Posted by speeder

I agree 100%, this car is a ghetto pile of schit. But of course I'm old and from another time when there were good cars for sale all over the place. Even if it was original, it would be a 2.2 911T. Those are about as exciting as banging your wife.

Denis,
I agree with you, except the part about 2.2T's being as much fun as banging your wife. The 2.2T is certainly no S, but it can still move well compared to most modern cars. I have had a few and they are capable of doing speeds of 125mph for longer periods of time on the autobahn, and they also move pretty well in daily street traffic. Drop in a pair of lightweight sportseats and 350m Momo Prototipo, and the car handles nice and tight.
Yes, the 2.2T motors are slow at dead stop. But so are E's and S's compared to most sports cars. But once the 2.2T is in second gear and above 2500 rev's it pulls nicely all the way thru redline and into 5th gear. A 2.2 911T is a good car to have.
As for the comparison, some wives are very hot. But even that can get boring after a while. Human nature is always to want something you can't have. That's why we are always dreaming about the other guy's wife.
A guy with a 72 Beetle dreams of owning a lowly 911T. Whereas a guy with a 911T, is always dreaming of owning a real 911S or RS. And a guy with a real 911S is always dreaming about owning a real 917. And a guy with a real 917 wishes he were 30 years younger, had a hot wife - and a full head of hair. We are all envious on our own levels.

[christiandk]

Originally Posted by blau911

A guy with a 72 Beetle dreams of owning a lowly 911T. Whereas a guy with a 911T, is always dreaming of owning a real 911S or RS. And a guy with a real 911S is always dreaming about owning a real 917. And a guy with a real 917 wishes he were 30 years younger, had a hot wife - and a full head of hair. We are all envious on our own levels.

That is so well said - one for the books!

[Macroni]

I am a dreamer.... with a full head of hair and no 917....married.