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mike fitz 08-27-2014 02:43 PM

Now that's a nice car. SmileWavy

mike gilbert 08-27-2014 03:48 PM

Early 914's maybe?
 
Seems that comparing any and all air cooled Porsche's before 77 and after 77 is like apples and oranges in stock form. The earlier the year the more hard core racier it feels, so in that I think the 914 is the closes thing that a practical man can purchase that feel as close or better than a 356.They have the same interior trim and VDO gauges as a 911 long nose but feels different in its own right. Finding a good cheap 914 is not too hard but a good cheap 356 does not exist. I say get one now while you still can. I can see the 914 getting up to the 20k mark next 10 years if everything keeps going good. Their really cool mini exotic cars to me and a little practical to say the least with interior side room to spare, two huge trunks and best of all its a VW Type-4. Its the last of the air cooled cars that's plentiful and cheap right now. I can tell you from a drivers stand point that if you lower a 914 a little, add wheels spacers or wider wheels and tires with some negative camber it is truly like a large go cart for the streets that's un comparable to any so called "sports car"...its a true track car with little effort. Sometimes I feel like I'm driving a 550 spider. They just need the time and effort. I'm convinced you can get $1,000,000 vintage Porsche handling and feel for less than $10,000 with a 914 and that's just the way it is and I don't care what anyone says. I know their ugly to most and they were for me too at first but I tell you when its low to the ground and you get the bugs and rattles fixed it really will grow on you till you think its the best car on the road.

mike gilbert 08-27-2014 04:36 PM

Don't get me wrong I love the looks of a 911 or 356 as much as the next guy but you cant say this looks bad can you? I hate to admit it but I have less than $2000 in this car and its the best handling thing I have ever driven, its mostly an original stock 72 car without sway bars, it doesn't need them for the street IMO It just has billsteins and 16" wheels/spacers few tweeks for upgrades. I would sell my 911 before I would sell my 914 ...THATS CRAZY TALK YOU SAY but thats the way I feel. Its a very emotional car once your hooked. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409186199.jpg

Matt Monson 08-27-2014 05:29 PM

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I've been watching the price curve.
There have also been some folks here who have repeated my assertion about the value. Good value for the dollar spent might equal market appreciation as more folks realize the value for the dollar spent equation. More demand = higher prices.
Stupid high like longhood 911S? No.
I guess I move in different circles. Several times a month I get a guy with a 996TT who calls up with a 2nd gear that won't stay in gear or who shelled 3rd and ripped all the teeth off it.
When I tell them to expect to spend $5k if they got lucky and $10k if there is shrapenal damage there is often an awkward pause. And then a, but I only paid $35k for the car, I can't afford that kind of money to fix it. 996tts are where Midyears and SCs were ten years ago. They are getting neglected, abused and all but the garage queens are going to continue to slide.

mike gilbert 08-27-2014 05:37 PM

Lol
 
Ok I'm just showing it off now but you guys understand:D If you can find a decent one that's at least rolling on all four preferably not totally rusting in half and under $1000 with a title like I did you have to buy it. With parts cars galore even here in Memphis, its a fun fun project all around. An engine you can rebuild for $1000, capable of easily having more power than a 550 spider or 356 if wanted and @ 2000lb. its crazy good with just 80hp. Its no 911 but a 911 is no 914 or the 914 is like a 356 but even better IMO in some ways its more like a 550. I have never driven a 550 but it must be similar. This car gets way more attention than I like compared to my nice 83sc ,its every where I stop people want to ask questions or take pictures, no one ever approach's me in the 911 or seems to want to know more and that's OK I'm cool with that...OK rant over LOL..but seriously get a 914 if you have room and want a serious project that will not disappoint.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409189353.jpg

NYNick 08-28-2014 07:39 AM

I tend to agree that the 914 is next to go up. Cheapest air cooled you can buy. What's not to love, other than looks?

mike gilbert 08-28-2014 10:10 AM

Yes
 
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Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 8234758)
I tend to agree that the 914 is next to go up. Cheapest air cooled you can buy. What's not to love, other than looks?

Yeah its like one of those faces only a mother could love. Its so ugly its cool, right?:D I guess people should wake up soon about these cars they are truly amazing and I dont know why their not already the most popular..they will be. Its the most fun car I have ever driven and we all have driven everything Im sure. Come on its a mid-engine Porsche are you kidding me;)

christiandk 08-28-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 8234758)
I tend to agree that the 914 is next to go up. Cheapest air cooled you can buy. What's not to love, other than looks?

Well according to the wise men this is the most unpopular and cheapest aircooled. I beg to differ.....It is the most nimble P i ever had. And a great low production build. The engine though.....hmmmmmm.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409250191.jpg

NYNick 08-28-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by christiandk (Post 8235089)
Well according to the wise men this is the most unpopular and cheapest aircooled. I beg to differ.....It is the most nimble P i ever had. And a great low production build. The engine though.....hmmmmmm.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409250191.jpg

So slam a 6 into that baby, purists be damned, and drive it until you drop.

I'm looking at a completed 914-6 GT Tribute with a new 2.5L in the low $20's, or one of 2 T's that need some work and will end up costing me $40-50K. I'm leaning towards the 914, even though the T's will be original and go way up in value more. I think I'd rather have a balls to the wall car to drive the living snot out of…..or am I nuts?

Matt Monson 08-28-2014 11:03 AM

You won't regret the 914. My '73 has 105-110bhp and it's silly fun to drive.

christiandk 08-28-2014 11:28 AM

I would love a 914 in a cool color...but not a car for the family man with a dog too!

Matt Monson 08-28-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by christiandk (Post 8235217)
I would love a 914 in a cool color...but not a car for the family man with a dog too!

What do you mean? My original sales brochure (yes, I have one) says that the center console doubles as a 3rd seat.
http://motorcardigest.com/wp-content...sche-914-7.jpg

NYNick 08-28-2014 12:01 PM

Wow Matt, that baby looks sweet.

christiandk 08-28-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 8235244)
What do you mean? My original sales brochure (yes, I have one) says that the center console doubles as a 3rd seat.
http://motorcardigest.com/wp-content...sche-914-7.jpg

Wow eye opener. Could you fit a child seat there? When I was a kid in the early 80s my dad made "child seat" to be used between the front seats in his Pajero and his Cherokee.

sck007 08-28-2014 02:10 PM

Car looks great!! Every time I see someone's 914 fixed up I get inspired. I hope to get mine running one day(just no time)! I bought it from the original owner over 3 years ago. He even had dealer install AC(cough cough). Interior is dusty but almost perfect. She needs a paint job because he had it in the garage with paint cans, and wood on top of it.



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Originally Posted by mike gilbert (Post 8234084)
Don't get me wrong I love the looks of a 911 or 356 as much as the next guy but you cant say this looks bad can you? I hate to admit it but I have less than $2000 in this car and its the best handling thing I have ever driven, its mostly an original stock 72 car without sway bars, it doesn't need them for the street IMO It just has billsteins and 16" wheels/spacers few tweeks for upgrades. I would sell my 911 before I would sell my 914 ...THATS CRAZY TALK YOU SAY but thats the way I feel. Its a very emotional car once your hooked. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409186199.jpg


Matt Monson 08-28-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 8235259)
Wow Matt, that baby looks sweet.

Not mine. My '73 need a full interior restoration.

One of these days I'll snap some pictures of the Bumble Bee interior. It's in pretty nice shape and uses blue plush seat inserts I haven't seen in any other car. But the exterior was such an embarassment when I bought it that until I can make the outside more correct, I won't ever bother doing a full photo shoot of the car.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...e/IMG_1074.jpg

Matt Monson 08-28-2014 02:46 PM

I need another 914 like I need a hole in the head (I also own a 1970 1.7l that's not in my signature) but I've been eyeing Steve's car.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/826487-74-914-6-conversion-gtlook-roller.html
911 engine (which I have) and 914 gearbox (which I also have) and you've got a turnkey 6 replica. Someone should grab this car.

BTW, those seats in it are the same as my Bumble Bee seats, but black instead of a dark midnight blue color.

CountD 08-28-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 8235538)
I need another 914 like I need a hole in the head (I also own a 1970 1.7l that's not in my signature) but I've been eyeing Steve's car.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/826487-74-914-6-conversion-gtlook-roller.html
911 engine (which I have) and 914 gearbox (which I also have) and you've got a turnkey 6 replica. Someone should grab this car.

Ok, Matt I'm gonna say it if no one else will - that someone who should grab it is you. Really, this 914 in CO needing all the bits you have, and then it's a 6 replica. Looks pretty clean to me, and looks like it would be a blast to drive with your stuff put in. C'mon, you need to come to your senses at least it's in the same state. And on top of this, you know it's really what you want to do. Go over, check it, and bring the cash. I bet there is a little wiggle room - and what can you get for $5k anymore besides a 911E owner's manual, a 904 owner's manual, and a 930 owner's manual. Having that car would be more fun than the three books.

Matt Monson 08-28-2014 05:06 PM

Why do I need 4 914s? What I need more of is time. I'm one of those guys who enjoys the process of the build almost as much as driving the car. I've got everything to build a GT bodies 914-6 except for an oil tank.
I'll get onto it one of these days. In the meantime I offer up this other car to others. Steve is a straight shooter and formerly in the business. He's slowly liquidating his stuff as he is getting a bit older. He's a good negotiator ( so don't expect to go in and walk away laughing at your good deal) and in touch with the market.
If I had more storage I might really consider it, but I already store the '70 eighty miles away from my house. There is a point as which you just need to stop amassing projects and wait until you get some of them done before you bring home another list puppy.

Ronnie's.930 08-28-2014 06:19 PM

I've had two 914s (still have one of them that is now about 1/2 parted out) - was my intro into the Porsche world back in my early 20s. I've always liked their odd ball looks and excellent handling, but never liked the fact that they are snails in a straight line (much like Eric's thinking processes).


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