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puddy 05-18-2015 11:27 AM

Slant nose conversions with gaudy body work
 
I keep seeing the odd late 80's 911 cab with ugly ( in my opinion) slant nose conversions and sometimes ugly 80's body kits. Well I see these selling for around $20k and even though I think they're hideous I'm thinking that price isn't too bad for a low mile drive train and g50 trans. Am I crazy? Do people buy slant nose conversion kits? Maybe if pick one up and try to part out body etc and keep the drive train?

NYNick 05-18-2015 11:44 AM

Interesting thought, but the price is way too high IMO.

copbait73 05-18-2015 01:27 PM

If you have the parts to return it to stock appearance and you can do the work yourself it is a good flip or keeper at that price.

COLB 05-18-2015 02:54 PM

Until average cars start breaking $40k, there is no money in undoing slant conversions.

That is why long hood Ts that got the "80s treatment" have only recently started getting converting back.

puddy 05-18-2015 04:03 PM

Thanks guys. I guess if I could find the right roller for sale, it could be any easy motor swap to make a nice car.

COLB 05-18-2015 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by puddy (Post 8628298)
Thanks guys. I guess if I could find the right roller for sale, it could be any easy motor swap to make a nice car.

The math problem is that a nice roller ($8-10k) + a strong running slant conversion ($18-20k) puts you into decent Carrera money before you even factor in the work required to make the swap.

And what you end up with is a non-matching car worth less than a car you could have bought from jump street.

Maybe you can squeeze a little more money by parting/selling the slant chassis after you have pulled the motor, but slant rollers aren't flying off the shelves -- most of the panels are not desirable, and the interiors are often similarly atrocious.

ficke 05-19-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by COLB (Post 8628340)
The math problem is that a nice roller ($8-10k) + a strong running slant conversion ($18-20k) puts you into decent Carrera money before you even factor in the work required to make the swap.

And what you end up with is a non-matching car worth less than a car you could have bought from jump street.

Maybe you can squeeze a little more money by parting/selling the slant chassis after you have pulled the motor, but slant rollers aren't flying off the shelves -- most of the panels are not desirable, and the interiors are often similarly atrocious.

Colb, You consistently offer sound, well thought out advice that is hard to add to.

914agogo 05-19-2015 10:53 PM

I have a nicely done all steel 85 cab slantnose converted long ago by Ru$nak in Pasadena and that is about what I need out of it. $20K to break even.
so far many dreamers however a couple of interesting prospects, both wanting to explore returning it to a stock cabriolet since it was not a converted Targa.
I dont see how anyone could come out ahead on this one, although it remains a nice driver for those who like that style.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1432104491.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1432104631.jpg

914agogo 05-19-2015 10:58 PM

not in line with the marque this styling though there was a real Flachbau, I didnt dig it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1432105060.jpg

Matt Monson 05-20-2015 06:30 AM

Yes, there were a number of real flachbau cabs made. My aunt owns a blue one.

techweenie 05-20-2015 07:16 AM

One of the reasons OE Turbo front fenders are so valuable is that these conversions are reversible.

Certainly you'd want to keep a flachbau, but correcting a typical fiberglass slant conversion is a great way to add value.

Matt Monson 05-20-2015 07:50 AM

How difficult is the rocker reversal on one of these? What does the body look like under there after those are installed?

techweenie 05-20-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 8630493)
How difficult is the rocker reversal on one of these? What does the body look like under there after those are installed?

In my experience, they are either glassed-on - a mess - or held on with 5-6 sheetmetal screws. That area can be patch painted easily enough.

Matt Monson 05-20-2015 09:35 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/863448-need-help-pricing-74-911-project.html

This '74 interested me, but not being a body guy I was scared by the rockers and vented rear flares. Clearly the flares would need to be handled by a professional, but it sounds like maybe a punter like myself could handle the front end and rockers most of the way.

Something to keep in mind if one of these weirdo cars comes along at the right price...

techweenie 05-20-2015 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 8630664)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/863448-need-help-pricing-74-911-project.html

This '74 interested me, but not being a body guy I was scared by the rockers and vented rear flares. Clearly the flares would need to be handled by a professional, but it sounds like maybe a punter like myself could handle the front end and rockers most of the way.

Something to keep in mind if one of these weirdo cars comes along at the right price...

Real turbo fenders have gotten pricey, but there may be some value in the parts that come off... The black example needed a bunch o parts, but the only biggie was plugging the flare vents. You're talking serious body talent to make those disappear. Especially on a black car!

Matt Monson 05-20-2015 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 8630679)
Real turbo fenders have gotten pricey, but there may be some value in the parts that come off... The black example needed a bunch o parts, but the only biggie was plugging the flare vents. You're talking serious body talent to make those disappear. Especially on a black car!

I was interested in going back to the original slim hips and chrome trim, like a proper middie. I assumed the rear flares on that one would be a throw away.

techweenie 05-20-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 8630687)
I was interested in going back to the original slim hips and chrome trim, like a proper middie. I assumed the rear flares on that one would be a throw away.

That was the context in which I weighed in on that car. The slim hips are hugely expensive as fashion has gone back that way. And Turbo flares alter quarter panels the most of all flares, so you need essentially complete quarters. That's a lot of welding.

Matt Monson 05-20-2015 09:56 AM

Good to know.

ficke 05-20-2015 10:37 AM

This was a 85 with steel body work.
Like so many of these versions it was done because of a accident . When they sourced a rear trailing arm from a junk yard it had a different offset so one wheel stuck out a half inch different than the other one. I sold it for 19K and was glad to get it.conhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1432146911.jpg

ficke 05-20-2015 10:38 AM

I do not like these fakey do poser cars. I sold that car about 6 months ago.
I thought about returning it and came to the same conclusion most have, not worth it at this time.


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