Jumped to $100k almost immediately

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by pu911

There are two different markets for turbo's

1. Low mileage excellent condition 100 % original cars- these are the cars "collectors" buy and pay big money for.

2. Everything else- much tougher to sell even at 1/3 to 1/2 the price- these are the cars "enthusiasts" buy- it's a totally different market.

This is an over simplification but nothing in hagerty or any other pricing model reflects this reality.



Phil

Even simpler than that.
1976-79 $100,000 to $400,000
1980-85 $ 75,000 to $125,000
1986-89 $ 75,000 to $250,000

These values are for nice cars no issues.

Second that these cars perform better at a auction house than eBay ect.




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[rdwinelover]

Originally Posted by pu911

There are two different markets for turbo's
1. Low mileage excellent condition 100 % original cars- these are the cars "collectors" buy and pay big money for.
2. Everything else- much tougher to sell even at 1/3 to 1/2 the price- these are the cars "enthusiasts" buy- it's a totally different market.
This is an over simplification but nothing in hagerty or any other pricing model reflects this reality.

Phil

I might add this in between 1 and 2:

* Restored example to very high standards and all original.

Might not bring all the money but I assume it might bring a large quantity. Also to note, we are in the early stages of these cars still and I don't mean in terms of price but that will ultimately equate. I mean in terms of people turning over rocks looking for these rare, neglected cars. Fewer than 1 to 2 handful were probably garage queens. That means finding good, held together drivers will be restored back to original again with a very high standard. Not just a cheap paint squirt. It's already apparent guys are chasing parts as things like sport seats, tails, etc sell as fast as lightening.

[brianvb]

I totally agree. Hey, psst ... You gotta good 79 930 tail ?

[rdwinelover]

No late tails. Just early tails including non a/c and a/c versions.

I posted this on BAT's comment page. Curious once again what others think about miles. Am I the only one not concerned about higher miles? Sure, I wouldn't mind a 25k garage queen but that car will need a engine rebuild just to get out all the carbon build up. Also full reseals as they will be dried out and the car will smoke and leak a ton of oil so what's the difference from a low mile car vs a high miles car assuming both bodies, paint, etc were identical. Sure, who wouldn't want the low miles for bragging but is there really that much of a price difference? Below might better explain more of my though.

"Two people have commented about the miles on the car. I disagree that miles determine prices to the extend the other two posters believe in its effect. Fewer than a handful of cars are going to have ultra low miles. For starters, their just aren't that many 1976 930's. On top of that fact? Many were tracked, bastardized, etc. The ones that were drivers are going to have miles. If the engines are rebuilt and tidied, what does it matter. These aren't GT3RS cars where a new breed of collectors puts 500 miles on them a year and basically leaves them in the garage. I actually don't think these 1976 930's are far from another legend, the 1973 911RS. Many to most of those cars were driven with spirit and many again have been rebuilt. They might have all the papers, documents, etc in order. Be all correct with parts. Have meticulously been restored or rebuilt, but they are respected with whatever miles are on the clock. Same goes for 911s cars. Miles just aren't a factor with those cars and the 930 is far from modern. It's actually just a few years ahead of longhoods. My checklist has so many other factors and miles are an afterthought if the cars cared for and in good shape."

[Flynt]

I'm right there with you on the mileage thing. I always say it's maintenance, not mileage. Low mileage cars are for the dudes with more dollars than sense - not based on the reality of what a low-mileage car usually reflects - a garage queen with no maintenance, or sometimes an outright lie!

[brianvb]

You guys are right again ! I have a low mileage 930 that has a slant nose, boxed rockers, aftermarket Fuchs & seats - yuk. The miles is certainly not my problem. !!!

[Nachtfalter]

If the engine isn't correct to the car, why do miles matter, and why would you pay 100k for it? It's a driver and nothing more.

[Mick_D]

So engine replacements under warranty are bad news then eh? Good to know.

[Nachtfalter]

If the phrase, "likely under warranty" is good enough for you, well, step up and buy it. It is not, nor will it ever be, a numbers matching car. If it was a Ferrari 275, a replaced motor will hurt it, and if it's an early 930 Turbo, a replaced motor will hurt it...... I'm sorry that's news to you....eh.

[pmax]

Stopped paying attention to BAT auctions after cars "sold" there turned up for sale again in days by the same sellers.

[Racerbvd]

duh

Originally Posted by brianvb

I totally agree. Hey, psst ... You gotta good 79 930 tail ?

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by rdwinelover

Curious once again what others think about miles. Am I the only one not concerned about higher miles?

I am not a buyer of low milers - no financial means for that, but regardless, mileage is a detail that does not concern me with regard to a performance machine (nor does originality). Butt that said, I bet that most low mileage claims are false considering all you have to do is unplug one, easy-to-get-to connector, and mileage is not recorded. Not to mention that you can get into the instrument fairly easily and do whatever you want with the odometer, if so inclined.

Now obviously, the cars that have spent their unfortunate existences stationary, under the abusive confines of car covers, are easy to spot - not referring to those.

I don't like low mileage, or mileage enhanced, women either - the more experienced the better, buttofcourse!

[DblDog]

Reserve not met...bat says they'll put the high bidder and owner together...

[2ndTARGA]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

duh

Looks like one of the very rare, now you see it, now you don't 924S tails - designed to disappear at speeds over 20 MPH.

[Ronnie's.930]

^^^

A 924 can actually reach speeds above 20mph?!?! Must be the models with the quadruple turbo set-up!

[pmax]

Originally Posted by universeman

Special Order 1976 Porsche 930 Turbo Carrera | Bring a Trailer

Beautiful car, unique color combo...a winner

"Buyer" places one bid at 100K and the auction ends at 102.5K without meeting reserve.

Sounds like ebay to me.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by 2ndTARGA

Looks like one of the very rare, now you see it, now you don't 924S tails - designed to disappear at speeds over 20 MPH.

Actually, that is a 944 Not quite "stock" either

[2ndTARGA]

[QUOTE=Racerbvd;8853401]duh


FYI - here's a guy trying to sell a '76-'77. 930 512 010 01 1976 & 1977 for sale in Sacramento, California, United States

[rdwinelover]

That tail has been sold.


[QUOTE=2ndTARGA;8863556]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

duh


FYI - here's a guy trying to sell a '76-'77. 930 512 010 01 1976 & 1977 for sale in Sacramento, California, United States