1967 911 With Rebuilt Motor by Motor Meister

[spb350]

I'm going to look at a 67 coupe today and the owner has had it for about 20 years. Back in 2009 he had the motor rebuilt by MM, bigger bore and cams, webers owner thinks its original motor. Its a project and the guy says he hasn't even put 500 miles on the car since the motor was reinstalled. It has front and rear fiberglass bumpers, 69 metal rear fender flares, high back seats, 5 15 Fuchs the rears look wider then the fronts, had some poor floor rust repaired, supposedly was running good but now its been sitting for a few years and carbs are plugged up. He says he has most of the original parts including seat but not the bumpers. I'll take some pics and get all the numbers but any guesses as to the value?

[JJK78-951]

A lot less since you said it has a Motor Sheister motor in it! In all seriousness the motor needs a complete rebuild and then some. Body repairs and paint and probably $20K++. Really need pictures to say for sure but so far it's not looking like much.

Pictures would help.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

If Motor Meister claimed they put a new, big bore piston/cylinder kit in, then they probably actually installed a used, sleeved-down kit.

[spb350]

Did MM ever do a decent job? how could they have stayed in business so long?

[Rawknees'Turbo]

I've never heard of anyone legit (plenty of fake/shill posters claiming satisfaction, but was easy to tell that was BS) being satisfied with their MM experience.

They stayed in business because they preyed on two types of people - those that didn't know any better (not familiar with the real cost of a Porsche 911 engine rebuild versus an American V8) and those who think that they can actually get something for nothing.

This thread is a good read if you're not already familiar with it ---> http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/254145-att-all-people-hurt-motormeister.html

[Matt Monson]

Motormeister did build a number of perfectly functional engines but in many instances the parts paid for on the invoice weren't present. You just never knew what you were buying.

If it's a decent project it's worth buying. 67s are worth a fair bit. If leakdown and compression are good I would probably rebuild the carbs and chance it. And just plan a rebuild farther down the line in the project.

[spb350]

Would $25k be a good price? High ? Low? I'm headed out the door

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by spb350

Would $25k be a good price? High ? Low? I'm headed out the door

Yes...

[spb350]

Pics

[spb350]

more pics

[timchar]

My motormeister experience: Before knowing anything about Pelican or mm, I purchased an 86 coupe in 2011. It had a $10,000.00 mm rebuild in 2003. When I bought it, it had 40k miles on rebuild. It ran great, 155-160 compression, no smoke, almost used no oil. In the 2 yrs I owned it, I had absolutely no problems with it. After learning about all the shady stuff about mm, I started getting paranoid. I decided to sell after 2 years (didn't like the color black anyway). Of course I couldn't sell on Pelican with a mm motor so I sold on Craigslist.
I've read most of the treads on mm and know they were/are crooks. Guess my car was one of the few that they actually did decent work. I feel for all the poor souls who were taken by them.
Tim

[spb350]

I think the engine code is 901/05

[spb350]

Originally Posted by timchar

My motormeister experience: Before knowing anything about Pelican or mm, I purchased an 86 coupe in 2011. It had a $10,000.00 rebuild in 2003. When I bought it, it had 40k miles on rebuild. It ran great, 155-160 compression, no smoke, almost used no oil. In the 2 yrs I owned it, I had absolutely no problems with it. After learning about all the shady stuff about mm, I started getting paranoid. I decided to sell after 2 years (didn't like the color black anyway). Of course I couldn't sell on Pelican with a mm motor so I sold on Craigslist.
I've read most of the treads on mm and know they were/are crooks. Guess my car was one of the few that they actually did decent work. I feel for all the poor souls who were taken by them.
Tim

Thanks. He did have a video of the engine running and it sounded great. It turned over real strong but he felt the carbs needed cleaned out and then it would run again. He has only driven the car 32 miles since it was installed. I'll be picking up the car some time this week should be an easy project.

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by spb350

... I'll be picking up the car some time this week should be an easy project.

Congratulation.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by spb350

Would $25k be a good price? High ? Low? I'm headed out the door

If you bought that car for 25K you did well, and the seller left money on the table, maybe 10k.

[spb350]

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

Congratulation.

Thanks