My friend here in Canada has a nice clean white 72 911T with S options, originally imported from Italy many years ago. It has never ben winter driven.

It had new paint 20 years ago or so.

Its going up for sale soon but it will be market price whatever that is.


(He'll be selling it with the stock rear decklid)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1466992476.jpg

^too bad he removed the S deco. I assume thats a glass front bumper too?

Just checked autotrader listings and anything clean looking pre-89 is on par or higher asking prices than US when the conversion is done.

Ya, I think that change was made by the previous owner 20 some years ago when it was just an old car and needed freshening up.

Interesting I read that that Italian 911s were typically ordered as a T but with a "trunk kit" full of S parts to get around higher tax laws in that country at the time.

The S options on this car were essentially factory if what I read is true about Italian cars.

5 speed, Fuches etc.

I'm not sure if that shows up on a certificate of authenticity or not but it will be interesting to find out.

In the early 80s sales tax on cars with engines over 2 liters was 38% if I recall correctly, and probably already was in the 70s... I guess they thought of every way that helped lower the sticker price

interesting...so does this car have the S MFI ?

70-73 it was very very common for US T variants to be ordered with the S appearance group. Nothing really special about it. A bunch of them even got sport seats.

Do you know if a 72 T would normally come with a 5 speed or did they usually have a 4 speed transmission?

Also, what about sway bars and such. Beyond an S appearance package, would a T typically get all the S suspension goodies or where there differences?

My understanding of this particular car is that the only non S components that it was delivered with is the T engine with Zeniths.
My friend is trying to confirm what he was told by the seller many years ago.

4spd was standard but again 5spd was usually spec'd by US dealers. I think it was a $100 add back then.

S package would get S calipers and I believe sway bars as well. My 70 had front but no rear. Should have S gauges.

It doesn't make the car particularly special since so many got the package but sellers frequently try to trump it up because of it. The one option I would pay extra for is the sport seats.

My 1972 911T came with a 4 speed manual. It is the first generation of the 915.

Canadian Porsches are cheaper and are generally in better shape as they are driven less due to weather restrictions.

I would be willing to sell my 1972 911T targa for $80K USD. It is fully numbers matching, bare metal repaint, black on black (original), 5 matching Fuchs with original anodizing, sport seat, all S options, no rust repair ever or needed, etc. It comes with lots of accessories including uninstalled SSIs, etc. Cheap Canadian air cooled Porsche!

Car sounds nice. Not so cheap though. $80K CAN more like it.

His 72 does not have MFI, S cams or S cylinders. It has the steel T cylinders,
but, do to looming emissions regulations (rather than performance) my own early production 73T had MFI (known as a T/E I think) as well as E or S cylinders.

Mid production 1973 they introduced the CIS injection

Interesting times 72/73 with so many unique permutations like his 72 oil tank flap:)

I'm not really trying to sell it but for the right price, I'm game....

I have seen much worse examples than my 72T for $100K plus. Asking prices don't mean jack. It is all about what someone is willing to pay. Personally, I love my car and don't really want to sell.

That point is not intuitive, although for our american friends, it makes sense when you think about it.

In the south of the US cars seals cook and rot from heat, then any amount of moisture can get in.

As you move further both there are not as many hot days and unlike us, not as many cold days, so cars tend to be driven frequently most of the season.

This continues as you move north. Upper NY state probably has one of the highest percentages of rusted porches or ones that no longer exist.

By the time you get into canada (unless it is west of the rockies) we know our cars won't survive so find places to tuck them away into by November or so, and don't bring them out again until the salt is washed away by April showers.

I think that if there have been cheap Canadian cars, its probably the same as some people in the US who have owned them for a long time and just can't reconcile the fact that their cheap old car is now wroth so much.

There are fewer uneducated sellers now, but probably a few who are just too nice to ask real money, or have never bothered to actually calculate the exchange rate.

This last point is on elf the same factors that sucked a lot of cars out of the US and into Europe.

I looked at a 73 911T targa last summer that hadn't been run in at least 5 years.

Non-matching 2.7L engine
Fiberglass front fenders.
Poorly converted to a accordion bumpers
Bad paint
Mouse nests in the interior and engine
Flat tires and damaged cookie cutter wheels
Little or no options from what stock items remained

The owner wanted $35K CAD ($27K USD) for it. That shows what the market is like now.

Asking isn't getting.