Suspect 1967 911S offered

[Cornerlot]

A person contacted me and offered this Porsche, a unfinished project car. Perhaps the person I spoke to does not own it and is only fishing. Does anyone recognize it?

He quoted the all the serial numbers and options from a COA, claiming its matching numbers and complete. Looks to me like screen grabs from some online source.

When I asked for followup info and photos the conversation went silent.





Steve

[touringmandan]

Did they have a special in '67 on Sand Beige 911S's? Or is it just the Sand Beige cars that have survived?

[JJK78-951]

I'm sure it was for a good price too since it is a project... yeah seems suspect as heck.

Motor does not appear to have a red shroud as it should although hard to tell.

How much are they asking for the car via wire transfer?

[Cornerlot]

Originally Posted by JJK78-951

I'm sure it was for a good price too since it is a project... yeah seems suspect as heck.

Motor does not appear to have a red shroud as it should although hard to tell.

How much are they asking for the car via wire transfer?

No wire transfer requests yet, but further info has arrived.

The trunk floor VIN stamp does not have the 'S' at the end of the number, and the engine serial is '909xxx' which indicates a Normal engine. Not a 911S apparently.

I've been asked to put a number on the package. Looks solid with all the body work done. Only the glass is said to be missing. Any ideas?

Steve

[SalParadise]

Yes, my idea would be to make sure this is the real thing and you can see the car in person. Looks like a lot of work was done and someone lost heart, which is good for you. A Normal isn't bad, but it isn't S money, so you need to go in knowing this. It needs a lot of assembly. A lot of work. But if it's real (go see in person!) before parting with the money. Make him come up with a number first.

[JJK78-951]

Totally agree with Sal. I was suspicious about it being an S as I said with the shroud. But it could be a normal with S options and not everyone who has these cars is a super aficionado so they may have just thought it was an S.
Definitely go see it in person and make sure the car exists, not just pictures! Typically you can tell by the response (or lack there of).
A number on something like that is very hard without better pics and more details, rebuilt motor, trans etc.. Of course the level of the restoration work being done plays a big part as well. I'd probably go through auction results for normal 66-68 911's come up with some comparable numbers, then cut that number in half give or take.

If I were a guessing man - which I am because here is my guess... Without looking up results and barring super high end restoration, these go for $70-$100K done? My guess is motor does not look rebuilt, but proper body work and paint is worth a lot, so it has good and bad sides. Glass is not that big a deal and given the age you would probably want to replace it anyway. Motor rebuilds done right can set you back a good $20K though, Transmission rebuild can easily run a few thousand too. On the low end I'd say it is worth $30K - high end maybe $50K as-is but could go either way if it needs more work, or has special options, rare paint etc.

Definitely make him make the first offer, let him know what completed cars are going for though. Don't take advantage of someone who may not be as up to date with current values - i.e.. he offers it for $3K - offer him more then that.

Keep us posted, sounds interesting!

[Cornerlot]

I have other photos which give more details, but I don't think the engine had been rebuilt. I was told the trans is a 4 spd. Original color was IRISH GREEN.

Seller floated a "what if" price that you would consider reasonable. But, I don't value it there, even if I was willing to take it on as a personal project. If the seller is willing to consider a lesser amount, then I will look at the car and go from there. I'm more inclined to pay up for an intact car.