Rs america

[ASD]

I remember these when they came out. I liked the idea of a little lighter model.
Why this was ordered with a sunroof I don't understand. It sorta defeats the purpose.
But is is a nice one.

1993 Porsche 911 RS America | Bring a Trailer

[spyerx]

MOST RSA were just spec'd back to carrera levels. With all 4 options (sunroof, AC, diff, radio) ticked.

I'd be interested in one with AC, Diff, and power steering (not an option lol)... but not at RSA premiums. Not worth it to me. Especially for "not a real RS"

[Matt Monson]

The RSA diff is junk.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by pmax

Doesn't matter a bit when they are not being driven.

You don't know Spyrex, do you?

haha. Troll got quoted before he deleted...

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by pmax

Hi there Matt. How goes the P-car business ?

About to wrap up the best Q1 we've ever had. Thanks for asking.

[littleoldman]

P Max - you know the term "everything is relative?"

[matt930s]

P-nuts- what do you do for a living?

MattR

[Matt Monson]

I'm so glad I don't sell cars.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Good thing that bizz is doing well, MountainMan, considering you keep fathering more and more offspring - gots to pay for all those My Little Pony bed sheets and backpacks!!!

[SalParadise]

I believe if you look at the weights, that RSA weighs more than a stripped out C2 of the same year. For what it went for though, he's probably happy he bought the RSA. I don't care for them. I don't know why they bring the money.

[spyerx]

Now a "real" RS.... yummm!!!!!

[pu911]

Originally Posted by SalParadise

I believe if you look at the weights, that RSA weighs more than a stripped out C2 of the same year. For what it went for though, he's probably happy he bought the RSA. I don't care for them. I don't know why they bring the money.

Not sure how this can be true- the RSA was a slightly de-contented C2. You had to specify certain options that would be standard on a C2. Cars with the same equipment should weigh about the same. The only difference would be manual steering of the RSA Vs power steering of the C2 and lack of rear seats in the 93's should be a small reduction of weight over C2.

Phil

[Cobalt]

The rear wing on an RSA weighs 6 more pounds than the pop up tail on a C2 the 94's with the rear seat parcel was very heavy. Not sure why they added that. The lack of power steering probably cancels out the added weight of the RSA tail.

Only RSA worth owning has no sunroof or A/C. Although the LSD's are crap and don't last long better than an open diff.

[specialtyoneinc]

Originally Posted by Cobalt

The rear wing on an RSA weighs 6 more pounds than the pop up tail on a C2 the 94's with the rear seat parcel was very heavy. Not sure why they added that. The lack of power steering probably cancels out the added weight of the RSA tail.

Only RSA worth owning has no sunroof or A/C. Although the LSD's are crap and don't last long better than an open diff.

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Agreed. If you're going to pay the big premium on a RSA over a comparable C2 Coupe might as well get the track focused options.

[Matt Monson]

Problem with the lsd is they used to 20/100 ramps like the turbo got. Clutches are no issue.

[Cobalt]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Problem with the lsd is they used to 20/100 ramps like the turbo got. Clutches are no issue.

The RSA got the 40/40 like the C2 not the turbo 20/100.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Cobalt

The RSA got the 40/40 like the C2 not the turbo 20/100.

Not the ones I've been inside of over the years. Got one sitting on my workbebch right now. The 964 and 993 lsds are something I've seen frequently have the actual build vary from the claimed spec sheets.

[Cobalt]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Not the ones I've been inside of over the years. Got one sitting on my workbebch right now. The 964 and 993 lsds are something I've seen frequently have the actual build vary from the claimed spec sheets.

That is odd. The spec sheets do call for 40% along with the RS america registry. I guess it is possible that some specified the 20/100 since code 220 covers both but why? the 20/100 is one of two things Porsche did wrong on the turbo along with the wide body trailing arms. IIRC The 3.6RS and the 3.8RS had the 20/100. IMO a 40/60 split would suit both cars much better. I can't imagine a 20/100 in a car like the C2 or RSA, it couldn't be much fun to drive. I would rather have an open diff.

I have the 40% in my C2 it is nothing special.

[Matt Monson]

Peeking into PET might offer some insight.

If you look closely they did a thing. Under the part number for the standard 40% LSD they also added in the 20/100 that was found in the turbos and the ROW RS models. Only thing I've ever come up with is that there was some sort of supply problem from ZF and they just started plugging in the 20/100 units on certain cars. They probably figured the RS gets 20/100 so why not give the RSA the "better" one since they had no more 40%ers on the shelf.

The problem continued into the beginning of production with the 993s as well. Once they changed vendors mid-model production and started using GKN LSDs the problem appears to have gone away.

[Cobalt]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Peeking into PET might offer some insight.

If you look closely they did a thing. Under the part number for the standard 40% LSD they also added in the 20/100 that was found in the turbos and the ROW RS models. Only thing I've ever come up with is that there was some sort of supply problem from ZF and they just started plugging in the 20/100 units on certain cars. They probably figured the RS gets 20/100 so why not give the RSA the "better" one since they had no more 40%ers on the shelf.

The problem continued into the beginning of production with the 993s as well. Once they changed vendors mid-model production and started using GKN LSDs the problem appears to have gone away.

Amazing how much there is to learn about all the crazy things they did back then. These cars were more bins built than we realize. I would be pissed if I had the 20/100 instead of the 40 if that was what I ordered. Auto crossing the turbo is next to impossible with 20/100 and the plates love to grind. I have the TSB's and numerous complaints from the original owner of my turbo and they just chalked it up to be inherent to the units and add a friction modifier to quiet it down. What is the point? I do know of a number of RSA's that all came with the 40%. I have a friend who recently picked up a 94 it would be interesting to se if he has the 20/100 instead. BTW that is pretty slimy especially since the 20/100 has a different part number.

Thanks for the heads up.

BTW I thought you no longer rebuilt these units?