Trissl Sports Cars

[urseppos]

Just curious if anybody has dealt with Trissl and or purchased a car from them ? I only ask as when I recently called about a car the owner was beyond vague and just said that he has 40 Porsches and he can't keep track of them all. Asking him pertinent questions was like trying to get a vulture to leave its newly found carcass. Any info would be greatly appreciated but at this point I wouldn't buy a pint of milk off of him.

[LUFTKUL]

I got the same milk toast response when I called them about trading for a car they had. More power to them if they don't need the business.

[trader220]

They have fewer than 20 on their site and that includes a couple Cayennes

[2ndTARGA]

Read and heed! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/900189-help-vin-switch-car-purchased-dealer.html

[urseppos]

Bloody hell, just read all 9 pages & I will never do business w/Trissl & henceforth will warn others of his lovely & deceitful demeanor. Hope he gets shut down, the little toe rag.

[Rick Brooklyn]

I bought my 74 from them. I can't say it was a bad experience, the only glitch was an error on the title, for which I had to wait for a correction before I could register.

The real issue there is the extremely limited choice if you want a PPI. I asked the boss of the local PCA and it turned out there were only two options, one being the dealership and the other some guy who allegedly is the personal mechanic of a big-ass local collector.

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[dumpsterdiver]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

I bought my 74 from them. I can't say it was a bad experience, the only glitch was an error on the title, for which I had to wait for a correction before I could register.

The real issue there is the extremely limited choice if you want a PPI. I asked the boss of the local PCA and it turned out there were only two options, one being the dealership and the other some guy who allegedly is the personal mechanic of a big-ass local collector.

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Hi Rick: would you mind sharing who you used for a PPI, and would you recommend that person? Seems like a lot of polarized views on Trissl. On Rennlist seems like they are a good, reliable seller, and that view seems to be bolstered by the few PCA area members I've spoken with, but over here the VIN case seems to have tainted a lot of views. Their location and lack of readily available PPI options does make long distance buying from them difficult at best.

[kc911s]

Trials is a joke. I wouldn't buy anything from them.

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by dumpsterdiver

Hi Rick: would you mind sharing who you used for a PPI, and would you recommend that person? Seems like a lot of polarized views on Trissl. On Rennlist seems like they are a good, reliable seller, and that view seems to be bolstered by the few PCA area members I've spoken with, but over here the VIN case seems to have tainted a lot of views. Their location and lack of readily available PPI options does make long distance buying from them difficult at best.

I used the personal mechanic guy, and I would not recommend him. Among the things he failed to report: Targa top didn't fit well, rear engine lid not closing well, clock not functioning, speedo oscillating, steering wheel missing the leather wrap.

[SalParadise]

Those vin-switching shenanigans should tell you enough, and that should be indicative to tell you the ethics and morals of this particular organization.

No other words need to be said. They are amateurs. No other words need to be said.

[onevoice]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

I used the personal mechanic guy, and I would not recommend him. Among the things he failed to report: Targa top didn't fit well, rear engine lid not closing well, clock not functioning, speedo oscillating, steering wheel missing the leather wrap.

I hesitate to even comment, because in the other thread, someone accused me of being a "shill" for Trissl, which i am assuredly not, but it is interesting to read a thread where I have met most of the characters involved. I live about an hour away.

In the vin switching case, the buyer was suing them, with a court date I though of last summer. Evidently not resolved yet. It is hard to make judgement without knowing all the facts, but it makes no sense, at least from the one side we have heard.

I have been to Trissl's shop, and it is full (75+cars) of valuable and rare cars. He isnt involved there on a daily basis, and has a guy that manages his collection. I would call it that because it seems to be more collection, than car dealership. Some of the cars seen in the background of their ads are personal cars that I doubt he has any interest in selling. That is what makes no sense, he owns at least 50 cars worth more than the car in the Vin dispute case, if it is as presented in the other thread, he could write a check and be done with it easily. His main business is some sort of flooring company.

While Trissl isnt in a big town, there is a long established PCA chapter (55years) that covers the area, with a very involved and active membership. Reach out to them for more opinions. That said, I wouldnt trust anyone selling a car, or any PPI, it is always worth the price to go see it. The shop that did the PPI mentioned above, has a senior guy that has at least 40 years experience. Nice guy, I do all my own work, but I would trust him, and he has given me advice when rebuilding my own engine.

I spoke with Trissl at a car show last year and he seems a nice enough fellow, although I dont really know him. His collection is almost all later cars, ie 964, 993, and newer. There is almost nothing in the shop earlier than 1980.

The line in your signature is appropriate:

"Fraud is everywhere in this hobby. Believe nothing, believe nobody, expect disappointment."

[pmax]

Originally Posted by onevoice

I hesitate to even comment, because in the other thread, someone accused me of being a "shill" for Trissl, which i am assuredly not, but it is interesting to read a thread where I have met most of the characters involved. I live about an hour away.

In the vin switching case, the buyer was suing them, with a court date I though of last summer. Evidently not resolved yet. It is hard to make judgement without knowing all the facts, but it makes no sense, at least from the one side we have heard.

I have been to Trissl's shop, and it is full (75+cars) of valuable and rare cars. He isnt involved there on a daily basis, and has a guy that manages his collection. I would call it that because it seems to be more collection, than car dealership. Some of the cars seen in the background of their ads are personal cars that I doubt he has any interest in selling. That is what makes no sense, he owns at least 50 cars worth more than the car in the Vin dispute case, if it is as presented in the other thread, he could write a check and be done with it easily. His main business is some sort of flooring company.

While Trissl isnt in a big town, there is a long established PCA chapter (55years) that covers the area, with a very involved and active membership. Reach out to them for more opinions. That said, I wouldnt trust anyone selling a car, or any PPI, it is always worth the price to go see it. The shop that did the PPI mentioned above, has a senior guy that has at least 40 years experience. Nice guy, I do all my own work, but I would trust him, and he has given me advice when rebuilding my own engine.

I spoke with Trissl at a car show last year and he seems a nice enough fellow, although I dont really know him. His collection is almost all later cars, ie 964, 993, and newer. There is almost nothing in the shop earlier than 1980.

The line in your signature is appropriate:

"Fraud is everywhere in this hobby. Believe nothing, believe nobody, expect disappointment."

Good post with mostly facts and actual experience.

And totally agree about the quote, there's a lot of that stuff going on everywhere in this hobby/business, and no exception here and in this forum itself. "Be careful out there !!"

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by onevoice

The line in your signature is appropriate:

"Fraud is everywhere in this hobby. Believe nothing, believe nobody, expect disappointment."

Do not agree...... I have met many honorable and ethical individuals in this hobby; there are times expectation exceeded results but it more had to do with me taking a hopeful versus reasoned approach to a transaction.

Maturity is taking responsibility for your actions.

[pu911]

There are plenty of honest ethical folks in this hobby/business.

Phil

[goodtogo]

Originally Posted by onevoice

I hesitate to even comment, because in the other thread, someone accused me of being a "shill" for Trissl, which i am assuredly not, but it is interesting to read a thread where I have met most of the characters involved. I live about an hour away.

In the vin switching case, the buyer was suing them, with a court date I though of last summer. Evidently not resolved yet. It is hard to make judgement without knowing all the facts, but it makes no sense, at least from the one side we have heard.

I have been to Trissl's shop, and it is full (75+cars) of valuable and rare cars. He isnt involved there on a daily basis, and has a guy that manages his collection. I would call it that because it seems to be more collection, than car dealership. Some of the cars seen in the background of their ads are personal cars that I doubt he has any interest in selling. That is what makes no sense, he owns at least 50 cars worth more than the car in the Vin dispute case, if it is as presented in the other thread, he could write a check and be done with it easily. His main business is some sort of flooring company.

While Trissl isnt in a big town, there is a long established PCA chapter (55years) that covers the area, with a very involved and active membership. Reach out to them for more opinions. That said, I wouldnt trust anyone selling a car, or any PPI, it is always worth the price to go see it. The shop that did the PPI mentioned above, has a senior guy that has at least 40 years experience. Nice guy, I do all my own work, but I would trust him, and he has given me advice when rebuilding my own engine.

I spoke with Trissl at a car show last year and he seems a nice enough fellow, although I dont really know him. His collection is almost all later cars, ie 964, 993, and newer. There is almost nothing in the shop earlier than 1980.

The line in your signature is appropriate:

"Fraud is everywhere in this hobby. Believe nothing, believe nobody, expect disappointment."

Makes no sense to me either (I'm the vin switch 'victim')

The Court case continues to rumble on, while i'm looking for Trissl to take the car back.

If they were prepared to make and stand by their initial description of the the car, as a genuine 2 owner Californian 1965, you would think they would also be prepared to take the car back, if it was genuine......... I mean why wouldn't they?... If it was genuine.

They are entitled to put their side of the story on this forum and I'm sure it would be welcomed.

The only response I have ever had from them so far is 'The contract said 'sold as is', tough luck'.

[ASD]

40 odd cars and "can't keep up with them"..? I managed a car dealership, we had 600 and had no problem keeping up with them LOL thats the first bogus sign to stay away..

[shaunmbenson]

I can only add that I had once made a phone call about a car and why some non-original stuff was on the car and the response was both bored and intense, somehow, at the same time. It felt as though I was being chastised for not knowing why a low mile car would have been repainted cause 'that's what happens to cars'
I was not impressed, having dealt with many wonderful car salespeople in my time. That said I like the inventory he finds at times and would not avoid exploring a car he had if I liked it. I'd just be sure to verify independently and then some.

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by onevoice

I spoke with Trissl at a car show last year and he seems a nice enough fellow, although I dont really know him. His collection is almost all later cars, ie 964, 993, and newer. There is almost nothing in the shop earlier than 1980.

Yes, nothing in the collection earlier than 1980 because the one thing that was had its VIN switched and shipped off the England post haste.

[onevoice]

Originally Posted by SalParadise

Yes, nothing in the collection earlier than 1980 because the one thing that was had its VIN switched and shipped off the England post haste.

IIRC, he told me the first Porsche he owned was in the 90's, and he identified more with the later cars. He of course knows the cars, but he didn't strike me as an "expert", rattling off data and facts about particular models. The vast majority of his cars are water cooled. Again, the vin switched dispute makes no sense, there is an unbelievable $$$ value in the warehouse. Lots of late model GT2/3/3rs/4, some with no miles, turbos early and late, and a carrera gt. Quite a collection for anyone, let alone a guy living in a small city in Alabama. And no he isn't some backwoods redneck, I heard him speaking German at the car show to some of his employees.

The whole thing reminds me of the recent thread about a shop in the Midwest wrecking a customers GT3RS while on a joyride, and then not settling the issue. The lost business will cost more than paying the bill.

[maninblack]

I bought my '75 Carrera from Jason at Trissl and the car exceeded my expectations. They were also kind enough to send me, unsolicited, some old paperwork they found on the car almost a year later. Nice little surprise in my mailbox.

Last month I found a 34k-mile '77 911S that I was interested in and a little Internet sleuthing told me that it had passed thru Trissl a few years back. Jason was kind enough to search his old files and share with me some fairly detailed information about the car that gave me the confidence to buy it.

Other experiences may vary but they've done right by me.