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Project '72 911T - What's it worth?

It's been a while since I've been on this forum.
A friend of mine is looking to get rid of a 911T. His sister bought it back in the 80s or 90s. It needed some work so he started digging into it to fix it up. Life happened and now the car sits mostly disassembled years later with a brand new paint job under years of dust. There are boxes of new parts and old parts scattered between his house and her house. They just want to see it gone. They offered to sell it to me, but don’t know what it’s worth. I don’t know enough about Porsches to know either which is why I came to you.

As you can see from the pictures, it’s a basket case. If I were to purchase this from anyone else, I would expect ½ the parts to be missing, but I trust that he knows what is and isn’t missing. It may just take a while to track it down. He says he has most of the parts and several new parts. There are 3 pictures of receipts for some of the parts and work that they ordered from Krynock. Take a look through those. I could try to type them up if you can’t read them.

It has a new dry sump pump. New pistons, cylinders, heads.
He said the cam chain update is included (I have no idea what that is). He still has all of the glass, trim, misc body rubber, mechanical fuel injection pump (not sure about the entire system, but he didn’t mention tossing it).

Some of the parts that it needs: Carpet, Seats, Dash Cover, one new stainless heat exchanger, cam chain slipper (?).
While everything has been sitting indoors the entire time, some of it has been in a non-climate controlled garage or basement, so you can see a bit of mildew/mold/dust on any of it.

I’m not worried about taking on a project of this size for time or skill, but I gasped when I saw the total on the 1992 receipt for parts. So I’d also appreciate and suggestions on other heavy hitters on the budget that could remain. I’ve built a few engines, but a piston engine would be new for me (yes, I’m a rotary nut). I don’t mind learning.

The VIN is 9112 100019. What can you learn from that?

It’s possible the car is worth a lot more than I would want to buy it for, but it should also help him get a ball park asking price if he ends up selling it to someone else.

Thanks for your help everyone. Shaun.

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20k ish easy. Just a guess.

Lot of people PMing I'm sure too. I did have an old 1969 E for a short time.

May look into having Don Ramsay look it over as a relative expert in old air cooled Porsche out of TN.

911 engine probably has 3x the parts of a rotary. Not a slam as simplicity is often a sign of genius. These engines are more like a fine watch. Many pros qoute 40h in a full rebuild. An amateur after a lot of reading and studying can still drop 100hrs after accumulating parts in building a 911 from split case to running motor. And some can build a sbc in 8min as a team(not that it'd run long).

You'll likely have another 7-10k in parts at todays rate. A dash pad is going to be 13-1600 alone.

Almost impossible to value paint condition. Was it a bare respray? Was it in correct paint or color?

This is a big learning curve for someone outside 911 community, but we are all here to help if you are brave enough. And if you do it, I think you'll have the same deep love that has kept so many of us here and even brought many back from water pumpers.

The 911 is irony in that the body/suspension is so simple and works so well. The engine is the epitome of over engineered German tech. But how many engines have gone from 1964-2016 in basic roots to still compete at Lemans. The GTRS was still based on these short blocks.

Kind of a long answer to not your questions specifically but wanted to throw you a bone since no one else had.

A lot of work,depends if you farm it out or DIY. Depends on what he wants for it. My instant knee jerk estimate is 15ish. A bargain and 10K. You will likely spend 20-40 in getting back together, correctly.

Is the trans and engine original?

I wouldn't think $20k. its going to take another $30-$40k in restoration. Or more. Maybe $20k to make a running 50 footer. Factory air con is kinda cool. Being a '72 is cool. $10-$15k to a knowledgeable buyer. $20k to someone who doesn't know the cars??? Just my opinion.

Vin #
911 model
2 (year 72)
1 (T)
0 (Coupe)
0019 sequence.

The dash pad is sitting right on the top of the shelf. ;)

If you do the work yourself it shouldn't be TOO bad. These are pretty simple cars. If you're looking to get a concours specimen, well……big $ to say the least.

It will take a loooooonnnnggg time to get that back together and sorted but you'll have a $50k-$60k car when you're done, I would think.

If you do try and take it on get every part in that garage. When I worked on freshening up my E the smallest of parts went for a premium like rear original seat bets and connectors. Stupid front speakers grills door pockets. 2k in small parts is very easy to do, and then you need more. If it was me I would send out all the motor parts and have it put together by someone good. The other stuff is not that hard.

Early S is great site to visit with that too, I stayed over there more when I had my E. If those fuchs are date matching, a set would be over 2K. More than 15k in parts is what I see in the pics. The Mfi pump is there, that is 2k-4k.

I would put 20k on what you have there any day of the week. If someone ask if you will take less, tell them find another T that is not full of rust or hacked up beyond recognition.

And yes I'm bitter because I sold my E for 36k that had some minor cosmetic stuff wrong dent in the rear quarter panel other things, the guy was a flipper and did a half arse restore on the car and then put 90k sale price on it.

Lots of good parts there, a great project for someone with the skill or enthusiasm. I noticed a photo of a 7R engine case which was available late 73. While the 7R a desirable case because of its extra strength it is not the original which was likely a 3R casting. The 72 has many one year only parts in the oil system, make sure the oil tank and lines are included. Looks like US$20k to me, maybe more to the right person. Should make that easily parting it out but please try to avoid that, they are not making anymore. But then I am a biased 72 owner.

Isn't the OP the potential buyer? I got the impression he was asking what it was worth not as a seller but to take on as a project...and what to offer?

Looks really rust free, not sure how much bondo. I think I saw one that was less desirable than this (black not original color) sell on the classifieds the other day in less than 24 hours. He was asking $30K IIRC. similar deal roller, engine and trans in boxes. I think the interior was in the car but rough.

If it was in So Cal I bet it would sell for $20K very quickly. maybe take a bit longer in TN?

Yep, at 20 k there is a flipper in Atlanta area that got my car, he would jump on it.

If you can get for anything less than 20K, I would buy it. If you could get it for 15K it would be a steal. You would be taking it off their hands and it would be a great deal between friends.

You should get it! Send the motor out do the other stuff. At the end of the day you would have a car worth everything you put into it. Honestly I bet there are 20 people on here who would be begging for a shot at that car.

I'm getting too old to even consider a car like this. In my mid-40s, my time has become much too valuable. I want to drive one, not work on one for years.

Best of luck if you can see all the potential. For me I'm entering the age when things like this erector set are not fun anymore...

I'd probably only do it if they threw in that Yamaha bike gas tank.

If the car isn't full of rust and has that many parts with it it would sell in a heartbeat at 20K. Realistically the car is probably worth about 30 k. Check the dash pad on top of the rack. If it's not cracked, it's worth 5K all by itself. The injection system is there. The throttle bodies and stacks and the pump are there. 1972 is one of the more desirable years of the longhoods. That VIN of 9112100019, indicates a 1972 911 T Coupe # 19. Which is obviously one of the earliest ones produced. One potential problem you could run into is that the Magnesium case wasn't bolted together. Those cases like to Warp when they get put in storage and the two halves are not bolted together. There is a lot of overspray on parts that shouldn't have been painted though. That's going to give you some trouble. Try to pick it up for 15K. If you can you'll be money ahead. It would be worth more if it had its original engine case. But like another guy said 7R case is not what 1972 used.

I'd think $25K or better. Too bad it's a non-matching engine, but a lot of value in the chassis if it isn't perforated...