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periodr3 10-16-2017 12:00 PM

88 930 feeler
 
I have a 1988 930 looking to determine value and best place to sell. Not a nubie, looking for solid advice as the market is all over the place. There have been some mods to the car which I have removed some. Non matching engine, transmission rebuild, clean interior 77k miles, has runs great just need to move on at this point.


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Tarek307 10-16-2017 01:10 PM

Check the market listings and length they have been on market, price it accordingly, but remember cars that are priced right sell immediately, cars that are overpriced sit for months. Miles are nice and low, only negative seems to be non matching engine. Good luck with the sale.

SalParadise 10-16-2017 05:01 PM

Minus at least $5K or more for those cheesy incorrect wheels...

93097004xx 10-17-2017 05:39 AM

88 930 feeler
 
Do yourself a favor and buy some aftermarket fuchs from pelican. Wheels and tires will cost you around $2000.

Make sure you get the factory correct wheel sizes.

You should be able to get $70,000 or a little more.

You are a absolute fool if you take less than $70,000. You won’t be able to touch a non running 930 in 5 years or less for anything under that amount.

Matt Monson 10-17-2017 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93097004xx (Post 9779324)
Do yourself a favor and buy some aftermarket fuchs from pelican. Wheels and tires will cost you around $2000.

Make sure you get the factory correct wheel sizes.

You should be able to get $70,000 or a little more.

You are a absolute fool if you take less than $70,000. You won’t be able to touch a non running 930 in 5 years or less for anything under that amount.

You need to get out more. Wheels run over $1000 EACH. Tires can easily run $150-200 EACH. Expect to spend $4000-6000 for a nice set of Braid or other Fuchs reps.

I appreciate the other selling tip. I'm going to list my 86 Carrera for $50k next month. After all, you won't be able to touch one for less than that 5 years from now. :rolleyes:

93097004xx 10-17-2017 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9779413)
You need to get out more. Wheels run over $1000 EACH. Tires can easily run $150-200 EACH. Expect to spend $4000-6000 for a nice set of Braid or other Fuchs reps.

I appreciate the other selling tip. I'm going to list my 86 Carrera for $50k next month. After all, you won't be able to touch one for less than that 5 years from now. :rolleyes:



I’ve seen fuch reps for around $250 a wheel.

Let’s not compare NA 911s with 930s. They made 10xs as many NA 911s as 930s.

I do however feel your NA 911 could be worth more than you believe.


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2.7RS 10-17-2017 08:34 AM

With a non matching motor.....
Some mods removed.....
What "mods" are left???? Im wondering and what kind of mods.

30% price adjustment of whatever you guys think is worth.


There are better cars out there. And the prices are falling. Don't be in denial.

You either lead the market or let the car sit forever.

Matt Monson 10-17-2017 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93097004xx (Post 9779560)
I’ve seen fuch reps for around $250 a wheel.

Let’s not compare NA 911s with 930s. They made 10xs as many NA 911s as 930s.

I do however feel your NA 911 could be worth more than you believe.


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Ah... your post wasn't clear. Yes, the crappy old Japanese reps one can buy used in the classifieds run that kind of money. You said from Pelican, not from a Pelican. ;)

That said, if I found a 930 with that kind of junk on it, I would wonder what other things the owner cheaped out on. I would stick with what's on it now versus wasting money on some old vintage knock offs.

I think you missed the other point. If you price a car 5 years ahead of the market, you won't sell it for another 5 years. :D

I think this particular car is in the $45-50k. Nowhere near $70k.

gearby 10-17-2017 10:00 AM

^^^^^
If you want to sell the car today, you have to use today's pricing. As far as the aftermarket wheels, it would be smarter to go original Fuchs if you can. It's hard for me to even wrap my head around a 930 with aftermarket Fuchs.
Different kind of wheel altogether might be in the mix though.

93097004xx 10-17-2017 10:01 AM

88 930 feeler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9779667)
Ah... your post wasn't clear. Yes, the crappy old Japanese reps one can buy used in the classifieds run that kind of money. You said from Pelican, not from a Pelican. [emoji6]



That said, if I found a 930 with that kind of junk on it, I would wonder what other things the owner cheaped out on. I would stick with what's on it now versus wasting money on some old vintage knock offs.



I think you missed the other point. If you price a car 5 years ahead of the market, you won't sell it for another 5 years. [emoji3]



I think this particular car is in the $45-50k. Nowhere near $70k.



Umm..... $50,000 for a 930..


DREAM ON!!!!!!!!


That price was 10 years ago maybe...

$70,000 all day long.

If you can buy 930s for $50,000 You need to buy as many as possible!

93097004xx 10-17-2017 10:26 AM

88 930 feeler
 
A little market reality..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/porsche/930%3famp=1


https://classiccars.com/listings/find/all-years/porsche/930


http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/porsche/930




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dg567 10-17-2017 10:32 AM

Asking vs Sale price

93097004xx 10-17-2017 10:58 AM

88 930 feeler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dg567 (Post 9779721)
Asking vs Sale price



Lol if the asking price is $130,000 then safe to say sale price is pretty high..

Also let me say that pelican is the WORST place to sell a aircooled porsche as the hobbyist community here doesn’t have deep pockets that other venues or platforms have.

Also still a lot of push back from the folks that have been here for some time.

The folks that can’t seem to accept the fact the days of the $20,000 911 SC have came and gone years ago..

They need to realize that now days you could not even rebuild a 911 SC engine for $20,000.

Those aircooled should have never fell that far in the first place..

Why those folks don’t buy water cooled porsches and stop crying about the aircooled market.

Water cooled porsches are the way to go for the hobbyist from here forward.


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Macroni 10-17-2017 11:06 AM

This car has a crucial flaw greater than the wheels...... the non-matching motor. This is a driver and will only bring driver dollars..... $60 to $65,000.

Mehoff 10-17-2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 9779768)
This car has a crucial flaw greater than the wheels...... the non-matching motor. This is a driver and will only bring driver dollars..... $60 to $65,000.

$67k with Fuchs was my number.

Lot of delusional values/asks out there. Anyone can ask $119k for a 930; look to the cars that actually trade.

Important note: well priced cars sell immediately. That doesn't mean they're under priced. The air cooled market is extremely liquid and fluid, so cars that should sell do so ASAP.

camdon 10-17-2017 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9779667)
Ah... your post wasn't clear. Yes, the crappy old Japanese reps one can buy used in the classifieds run that kind of money. You said from Pelican, not from a Pelican. ;)

That said, if I found a 930 with that kind of junk on it, I would wonder what other things the owner cheaped out on. I would stick with what's on it now versus wasting money on some old vintage knock offs.

I think you missed the other point. If you price a car 5 years ahead of the market, you won't sell it for another 5 years. :D

I think this particular car is in the $45-50k. Nowhere near $70k.



45-50k? I'll take it!

Not going to happen.

93097004xx 10-17-2017 01:01 PM

88 930 feeler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mehoff (Post 9779777)
$67k with Fuchs was my number.



Lot of delusional values/asks out there. Anyone can ask $119k for a 930; look to the cars that actually trade.



Important note: well priced cars sell immediately. That doesn't mean they're under priced. The air cooled market is extremely liquid and fluid, so cars that should sell do so ASAP.



A 930 will bring BIG BIG money at auction and when brokered. Just seems pelican, craigslist ect it gets a little tough to find buyers.

Is it a surprise marketing to the right demographic is important when selling a $100,000 fine european sports car like a 930?

sugarwood 10-17-2017 01:37 PM

He can replace all 4 wheels with EuroMeister replicas for under $800
Remount the same tires for $15/ea

https://www.google.com/search?q=Euromeister+fuchs

msort81 10-17-2017 01:51 PM

[QUOTE=93097004xx;9779754]Lol if the asking price is $130,000 then safe to say sale price is pretty high..

Also let me say that pelican is the WORST place to sell a aircooled porsche as
Also still a lot of push back from the folks that have been here for some time.

The folks that can’t seem to accept the fact the days of the $20,000 911 SC have came and gone years ago..

They need to realize that now days you could not even rebuild a 911 SC engine for $20,000.

Those aircooled should have never fell that far in the first place..

Why those folks don’t buy water cooled porsches and stop crying about the aircooled market.

Water cooled porsches are the way to go for the hobbyist from here forward.


Sorry but you are out of touch with reality. Pelican is a bad place to sell an overpriced turd most certainly, but a lot of buyers here are well informed, and much of that's thanks to the valuable contributions of folks who have "been here for some time"

At a recent dinner for some very respected people in the Porsche scene who've certainly been in the hobby for some time, a Sothebys rep who was hosting, and talked about how much push back they have gotten from buyers who purchased 930's in the crazy market and were now the reality has settled in are very disappointed.

"the hobbyist community here doesn’t have deep pockets that other venues or platforms have" Lasts time I looked Don Ahern still posts here, and unlike some of the other dealers mentioned in recent threads here Don and Porsport don't strike me as someone who would waste time on an unreceptive audience.

"you could not even rebuild a 911 SC engine for $20,000" ... Think before you throw out crass generalizations. Its idiotic statements like this, and your crap about water pumpers that show just how misinformed you are.

There is not enough information on the car to make a valued judgement on price. Perhaps you should go back to the world of deep pocketed people who are willing overpay for cars or engine rebuilds for that matter.

Norm K 10-17-2017 02:25 PM

Lots of value comments here (I tend to agree with the ones that fall in the $60-$65K range) but not much mention of where to sell.

If you advertise here on Pelican, expect plenty of virtual tire-kickers and/or dealer low-ballers who'll try to convince you that you owe it to them to sell them the car.

I've found the most serious buyers on this forum tend to be the ones in Europe. I sold a 911 to a guy in The Netherlands and one each 911 and 930 to buyers in Poland.

If I were selling a car like yours though, I'd probably take a hard look at Bring a Trailer. Post lots of photos, disclose every single problem and non-original part you can think of, then sit back and watch as the guys there still pick the car apart. It can get a bit overdone at times but the site generates real-world buyers and I'm often surprised by how much things sell for.

Plus, who doesn't want to see another air-cooled Porsche on BaT?

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