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enzo1 01-05-2018 11:42 AM

Fuchs Wheels...what will it bring?
 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1975-porsche-fuchs-wheels/


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1515184963.jpg

davewadd 01-05-2018 11:58 AM

The wheels are cool, but will only fit a few cars...and you gotta find tires....but how about the '74 Carrera on BAT? Seems like a cool car, and bidding is subdued so far.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-porsche-carrera/http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1515185859.jpg

specialtyoneinc 01-05-2018 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davewadd (Post 9873762)
The wheels are cool, but will only fit a few cars...and you gotta find tires....but how about the '74 Carrera on BAT? Seems like a cool car, and bidding is subdued so far.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-porsche-carrera/http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1515185859.jpg

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That's looks to be a fun lil Hot Rod. CA smog exempt is a major plus.

Macroni 01-05-2018 12:49 PM

No idea as to value. The 15X9s are expensive. I do not know if they would fit an RS style Flare. If you have a series 1 Turbo Carrera they would be perfect.
I do think I saw them previously listed on Ebay for $15,000.


As far as the 1974 BaT Carrera: I estimate it would take me at least $20,000 to $25,000 to return to factory correct; A/C $4000, OEM Duck $2500, 2.7 rebuild $15,000, Front Valiance $1500 and Misc while you are in there items. You might get $7500 to $10,000 for the 3.0L to offset the restoration costs. It looks like a nice motor.

Should be bid up to $60,000 to $70,000 range unless some of the BaT pixie dust is sprinkled on the auction.

trader220 01-06-2018 12:55 PM

Well since you can buy the 15 by 9's for $1475 and the 15 by 8's for $1075 from Porsche I hope no one is paying through that offer.

davewadd 01-06-2018 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by trader220 (Post 9875041)
Well since you can buy the 15 by 9's for $1475 and the 15 by 8's for $1075 from Porsche I hope no one is paying through that offer.

Is that "each"?

dwelle 01-06-2018 02:54 PM

yes, each. you can get them from suncoast...

Macroni 01-06-2018 06:41 PM

Do they fit RS/SC/ Carrera fenders?

davewadd 01-06-2018 06:46 PM

https://www.*************.com/product/SKUFUCHS159.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImv_I67_E2AIVmbr ACh0ZXgejEAQYAyABEgIsFfD_BwE

dwelle 01-06-2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 9875411)
Do they fit RS/SC/ Carrera fenders?

the 9's?

they can, fenders may need to be worked and lips rolled...

rlane930 01-06-2018 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwelle (Post 9875183)
yes, each. you can get them from suncoast...

Their page states contact for availability. Do you know if they actually have them? I haven't seen these stocked for more than 3 years.

Macroni 01-07-2018 08:06 AM

I had it wrong they were RSR wheels.......


Here is the ad...... $15,000


https://www.pca.org/classified-ad/325651

Matt Monson 01-07-2018 08:19 AM

Suncoast wheels won't have the right date. Not a comp. $1500 on 8s and $2500 on 9s.

That Carrera won't go over $65k.

Macroni 01-09-2018 11:09 AM

$72,500. Well sold but a nice hotrod. Appears to be turnkey.

$5,000 for wheels IMO if you needed the dates these wheels were a steal.

davewadd 01-09-2018 01:47 PM

i think the wheels will total around $5500 when you include fees and shipping.

But I don't understand the importance of dated wheels. If you concours your car, judges don't remove wheels and check dates,.....and even though the dates for these wheels are '75, they still won't be the "original" wheels that came with whatever car the owner puts them on.

JMS935 01-09-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by davewadd (Post 9878986)
i think the wheels will total around $5500 when you include fees and shipping.

But I don't understand the importance of dated wheels. If you concours your car, judges don't remove wheels and check dates,.....and even though the dates for these wheels are '75, they still won't be the "original" wheels that came with whatever car the owner puts them on.

I totally agree with you. You can buy these wheels brand new from Suncoast for basically the same as what this auction ended at. I’d much rather have brand new wheels as opposed to decades old wheels with all of their use and fatigue, just for a date stamp. That doesn’t make any sense to me.

Matt Monson 01-09-2018 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davewadd (Post 9878986)
i think the wheels will total around $5500 when you include fees and shipping.

But I don't understand the importance of dated wheels. If you concours your car, judges don't remove wheels and check dates,.....and even though the dates for these wheels are '75, they still won't be the "original" wheels that came with whatever car the owner puts them on.

Period correct trumps new repro every time in the hot rod game. Blame R Gruppe.

I'm seriously considering putting a 911/83 engine case into the build for my 74. You and I know that it's not any different from any other 7R case but to the general public it says Carrera RS. Somehow that's worth more than the 73.5 CIS T case I was originally going to use.

Macroni 01-09-2018 03:18 PM

Multiple times I have had cohorts pursuing dates to complete RS restorations....... 1 sold for $600,000 in 2007, the other a lightweight is valued today at $1.3M +/- a bit. The cost of "Number correct" wheels to them was inconsequential in relationship to the value of the project. To the right project these wheels had greater than sun coast value.



Matt; My favorite a 2.7 911/83 MFI motor. I had the opportunity to purchase a complete motor for $21,000. Figured by time it was installed I would have been in for $50,000.

Blew it.

ficke 01-09-2018 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davewadd (Post 9878986)
But I don't understand the importance of dated wheels. If you concours your car, judges don't remove wheels and check dates,.....and even though the dates for these wheels are '75, they still won't be the "original" wheels that came with whatever car the owner puts them on.

Do not bring facts, reality and logic into a date code discussion, it is all emotion.

Matt Monson 01-09-2018 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 9879070)
Multiple times I have had cohorts pursuing dates to complete RS restorations....... 1 sold for $600,000 in 2007, the other a lightweight is valued today at $1.3M +/- a bit. The cost of "Number correct" wheels to them was inconsequential in relationship to the value of the project. To the right project these wheels had greater than sun coast value.



Matt; My favorite a 2.7 911/83 MFI motor. I had the opportunity to purchase a complete motor for $21,000. Figured by time it was installed I would have been in for $50,000.

Blew it.

I'm building a 2.5 short stroke on carbs. I would rather do it mfi but just can't stomach whqt that stuff costs these days. I keep going back and forth. Still buying parts.

faapgar 01-09-2018 05:17 PM

73 CIS Block
 
Just use the 73T block.At 140 Horse it should not need any work.The 911/83 has probably been beat like a stepchild.The mag cases fatigue and crack as well like a 935 or 962.Most of the early mag cases get slightly oval in the line bore just get a clean line hone to be true.There are no case stud issues as they were not stressed and do not need case savers.Good studs and a Rawknees size oil cooler up front to keep it cool.$3-4,000 less to use that block.Just call my buddy Peter.Oh,he just got a.new knee.Ciao Fred

Macroni 01-09-2018 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9879157)
I would rather do it mfi but just can't stomach whqt that stuff costs


Talk to Lars.... he has all kinds of things hiding in his attic.....

Rawknees'Turbo 01-09-2018 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faapgar (Post 9879207)
Just use the 73T block.At 140 Horse it should not need any work.The 911/83 has probably been beat like a stepchild.The mag cases fatigue and crack as well like a 935 or 962.Most of the early mag cases get slightly oval in the line bore just get a clean line hone to be true.There are no case stud issues as they were not stressed and do not need case savers.Good studs and a Rawknees size oil cooler up front to keep it cool.$3-4,000 less to use that block.Just call my buddy Peter.Oh,he just got a.new knee.Ciao Fred

One would need an engine capable of more than a puny, 140 horse to tote that big, fookin MF around!

Matt Monson 01-09-2018 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 9879210)
Talk to Lars.... he has all kinds of things hiding in his attic.....

Yeah, i spent a Saturday there recently. I know where, I'm resisting the inevitible.

Fred,
I'm gonna build it myself. Ive never built a 911 engine before, just trannies. I've done dozens of Subaru engine, but never an air cooled. If i had a buyer for the case i might use another. Ive got half a dozen engines here from 2.2 to 3.2.

rbogh901 01-16-2018 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 9879070)
Multiple times I have had cohorts pursuing dates to complete RS restorations....... 1 sold for $600,000 in 2007, the other a lightweight is valued today at $1.3M +/- a bit. The cost of "Number correct" wheels to them was inconsequential in relationship to the value of the project. To the right project these wheels had greater than sun coast value.



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Yes, there are collectors. In fact it's not uncommon to see rare pieces with increased values. Sure a nickel is worth $0.05 but a 1918 nickel of the right sort can be worth $350,000. And if you have one I would be happy to give you a nickel for it.


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