No sunroof 73 911E premium?

[fastdiablo]

Hello, curious if a no sunroof 73 911 E holds significance or value beyond it being a 73E?. Or are they common or even expected to not have a sunroof back then? Trying to determine if there is a premium on no sunroof longhoods. Thanks much!

[juanbenae]

some will pay a huge premium for a slick lid. guys go to great lengths to plug sunroofs and even weld on a none sunroof lid from a donor car. real life benefit is mostly reserved for taller drivers as you may realize an additional 2" of head room.

if yours is an unmolested, very original car it adds little value IMO. hot rodders love the slick lid, significantly less weight up top.

[ficke]

Long hood cars, your 73E, are valued for their collectability and the vintage 911 driving experience.
Options ad to the collectability of a car and so a sun roof ads to a long hoods value.
Non sun roof cars are valued by People looking primarily for a performance, driver level car.
People like that look for non sun roofs 911's or weld up sun roof cars to make that 911 hot rod. Those people generally do not pay the long hood premium to have a have a 911 to cut up into a hot rod or for a canyon carving thrasher. Unless of course a long hood is thrashed already and then a non-sun roof long hood 911 could be bought at a discount, then a long hood might be considered for a hot rod candidate.
930's on the other hand were rare with out a sun roof and so might hold a premium over a sun roofed optioned 930.

[Matt Smith]

I'd say that what ever is the original spec for that car is the most valuable.
Some like sunroofs, some like no sunroof, and some like Targas.
If your question contains 'Premium' or 'Value', then the answer is 'original'. IMO.

[zztot]

You have the logic and originality to me is the key.
As was hinted at, performance guys like non SR car , but hardly seems pertinent to your jewel . GReat car!

[Matt Monson]

Agree with the others. These cars are a sum of their parts. For years guys have argued targa versus coupe for value when there is very little real price delta. One guy is gonna look for a sunroof. Another tall guy like me will want one without. They will both likely have similar budgets.

Few mods have a big price delta. Colors are one. On early cars sport seats are another when the seats alone might be worth over $5K. Even then $55k versus $60k isn’t a huge gap.

[Catorce]

The only car that i know of where a sunroof ADDS value is a 356. Original sunroof coupes are worth like 50K more than a regular car just for their sunroofs.

In any other 911 they don't add value either way.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by Catorce

The only car that i know of where a sunroof ADDS value is a 356. Original sunroof coupes are worth like 50K more than a regular car just for their sunroofs.

In any other 911 they don't add value either way.

That is a relatively recent change.
Although there our still people living in the past, for instance last year a member of the local PCA bought from another member a two owner no rust, 'A' sunroof coupe, he asked me if it was worth the money in performance to cut the OEM sun roof out of his nice 356 to help make it a better "out law". He has already put in electric seats and added fuel injection to the engine.
I should buy all the OEM parts he does not want and has removed

[Macroni]

Sunroofs trade at a premium to non-sunroof cars.

[fastdiablo]

Originally Posted by Macroni

Sunroofs trade at a premium to non-sunroof cars.

I own a few 911s, this is the first I’ve heard of this perspective and thought there would be at least some premium to a non sunroof car. Interesting.

[MichaelB]

I have a 1967 912 with a original electronic sunroof. But the key is that it has the water drain holes in a very unique location ~ in comparison with the later cars. In THAT case (early drain holes) I believe the sunroof car is a desirable option over a non-sunroof longhood.

[pu911]

Generally the later cars are worth more w/o S/R as most US spec cars were built with sunroof- think SC, Carrera's 964 turbo's etc. Most early cars did not come with a S/R so finding a nice car one is more difficult - as others have already stated buyers will decide what they want and pay accordingly.

Phil

[G450X]

Originally Posted by pu911

Generally the later cars are worth more w/o S/R as most US spec cars were built with sunroof- think SC, Carrera's 964 turbo's etc. Most early cars did not come with a S/R so finding a nice car one is more difficult - as others have already stated buyers will decide what they want and pay accordingly.

Phil

Agreed, I believe it’s simple supply any and demand of the particular series run.

I also have an e46 M3 “slicktop” with low options. Due to almost every e46 M3 being loaded with options (including a sunroof), it seems the low option cars are viewed as a bit more of a driver’s car (even though the weight loss is negligible) vs a luxury coupe and they seem to command a slight premium in the used market.

[dg567]

One less thing to break/leak if ya ask me.

[gearby]

They were probably more non sunroof longhoods made but I don't know if that actually makes them rarer. The non sunroof cars were raced more and damaged more. Especially the 72 slick tops.
Some people love them some people hate them. It's all a personal preference. I doubt there's much difference in price.

[Jeff Burger]

It kills me every time I see someone closing up a factory sunroof on a long hood car. I have two 72 non- sunroofs I would be more than happy to consider trading for 72-73 factory sunroof cars to help make your life easier.

I realize my comments may seem a bit ironic to those who may remember I removed a sunroof on a 90 c2 for a race car 10 years ago,

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by Jeff Burger

I realize my comments may seem a bit ironic to those who may remember I removed a sunroof on a 90 c2 for a race car 10 years ago,

Probably increased value in that case.

[sithot]

Any sunroof from that era is "rare" compared to the wholesale output of sunroof cars post '77.