70 914

tharbert · tharbert's Garage

A 1970 914 cropped up in a local marketplace site. I have no idea what the 914 market is doing. I assume it's getting a bump from the 911 market.

I've messaged the owner with a few questions. He says it runs and drives. I asked about rust in the frunk, a-arm area, floor pans... He says it's all in great shape. He only posted a few pictures.

So, what's a typical starting point for a running/driveable 70 914?

My wife says I cannot buy the car...

dwelle · 03-29-2018, 01:01 PM

1.7, all original, documents, mileage?

more info needed...

SalParadise · 03-29-2018, 01:23 PM

I rarely if ever see any 1970 914s for sale.

If they say no rust then they are not looking hard enough. I'd seriously need to see this baby on a lift or something. 914 inner rockers always scare me. So does the trunk area.

Looks like my first 914. That was oh...30 years ago.

If it was clean I see that $8K would not be out of whack...remember these cars creep up on you and all those pieces and parts and fuel system are no different in price from a 911.

1970 would make it valuable to me, as the early cars don't often show up for sale. Plus it's the year I was born.

The paint looks to be redone for sure. I don't like the chrome wheels...but this is easily fixed.

Matt Monson · 03-29-2018, 01:24 PM

Not enough pictures to say. Need trunks, engine, undercarriage and interior. Could be $10k. Could be $20k.

Matt Monson · 03-29-2018, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SalParadise

I rarely if ever see any 1970 914s for sale.

If they say no rust then they are not looking hard enough. I'd seriously need to see this baby on a lift or something. 914 inner rockers always scare me. So does the trunk area.

Looks like my first 914. That was oh...30 years ago.

If it was clean I see that $8K would not be out of whack...remember these cars creep up on you and all those pieces and parts and fuel system are no different in price from a 911.

1970 would make it valuable to me, as the early cars don't often show up for sale. Plus it's the year I was born.

The paint looks to be redone for sure. I don't like the chrome wheels...but this is easily fixed.

I gave one away 5 years ago. Had a bunch of appearance group Parts and under 100k mi. Needed paint and a door but no rust. I was moving and it had been parked ten years when I bought it. Kept the bumble bee and let a friend take the other. Feels dumb now.

SalParadise · 03-29-2018, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I gave one away 5 years ago. Had a bunch of appearance group Parts and under 100k mi. Needed paint and a door but no rust. I was moving and it had been parked ten years when I bought it. Kept the bumble bee and let a friend take the other. Feels dumb now.

I always had a soft spot for 1970 914s. Mine was a 1973. In all the years I was into them, I wanted a 1970. I never saw them back East - Connecticut/New York area. Never saw a 1970 or a 1971. They were always 1974/1975 cars for some reason. I think 1970 914s are special. But then again, it might have to do with my age. Maybe I think I'm special.

Crazy things happen when you move. Moving sucks and I have moved thousands of miles in the past 4 years. Still the 911 is with me - in even more pieces now. I hate to think of moving it again in pieces. That's why my goal is to have it done by the end of April (at least moving on its own).

Matt Monson · 03-29-2018, 02:16 PM

Born in 71. Birthday is tomorrow actually. Next door neighbor in the mid 70s had a 70 914-6. First Porsche i ever got a ride in. Hook got set early. Dad was a vw guy. We had a 77 camper and a 79 rabbit.

NYNick · NYNick's Garage

914's are creeping up. I'd be interested in a fine example, but would be very picky to find the right one.

hillskier · 03-29-2018, 06:28 PM

There was one in Little Rock on CL for several months at $9,500 until a few weeks ago, same color and possibly the same year. I think it had around 60k stated miles and rust free, originally from AZ I believe.

hillskier · 03-29-2018, 06:34 PM

There was also a white one here in Nashville that sat on CL for six months @ $8500, supposedly low mileage as well with the 1.7. Pictures looked good, but I never saw it in person.

gearby · 03-29-2018, 10:14 PM

914 weak points are longitudinals and the hell hole. You'll have to take the outer rocker off to see the longitudinal and the hell hole is under the battery. They're notorious for rusting out there. It is true you don't see very many 1970 914's, most of those ghastly tail shifters have been thrown away by now. Because of that, I'm sure they've become collectors items.

SalParadise · 03-30-2018, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Born in 71. Birthday is tomorrow actually. Next door neighbor in the mid 70s had a 70 914-6. First Porsche i ever got a ride in. Hook got set early. Dad was a vw guy. We had a 77 camper and a 79 rabbit.

Happy Birthday Matt. Yeah, the first ride. Amazing how those first emotions and impressions are hard to get rid of in an entire lifetime - and how much they influence you in your ways for decades. How those early rides with all the sounds, smells, and whatnot got me into trouble with my almost all my future purchases.

The first 911 ride I had was a SC Targa, and the first 911 I drove was a 911T Targa - so that made me a Targa guy - as I now find coupes too claustrophobic. I am one of those guys that find the Targa more pure than a coupe - and the experience of a Targa much more satisfying with all the extra noise.

Matt Monson · 03-30-2018, 05:42 AM

I denied it for a time, but I’m out of the closet. I’m a targa, that that likely has 914 roots to it. Topless is best.

NYNick · NYNick's Garage

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I denied it for a time, but I’m out of the closet. I’m a targa, that that likely has 914 roots to it. Topless is best.

Two things:

1) I continue to be perplexed why Cabs come up dead last price wise, especially when "topless is best". I love em.
2) I bought my first Porsche, a 3 year old, Polo Red 912 with 30,000 miles on it, the year you were born.

Happy birthday!

SalParadise · 03-30-2018, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NYNick

Two things:

1) I continue to be perplexed why Cabs come up dead last price wise, especially when "topless is best". I love em.

This baffles me as well. Cannot understand why a cab brings such low money. There will be a turn around sometime. There has got to be.

Unobtanium-inc · 03-30-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NYNick

Two things:

1) I continue to be perplexed why Cabs come up dead last price wise, especially when "topless is best". I love em.
2) I bought my first Porsche, a 3 year old, Polo Red 912 with 30,000 miles on it, the year you were born.

Happy birthday!

Because the enthusiasm for Porsche is fueled by the racing provenance. That's why the Speedster is the most popular 356, it was the most raced. Same with the 911, the coupe was on the track. No one ever took the checker in a 911 cab or a Targa. The purists view those cars like Cayennes/944's/924's, etc. meaning Porsche did what it had to do to make money, but you aren't going to catch a serious Porsche guy have a 911 cab as his only Porsche, maybe his 3rd or 4th, but if he has to pick only one, it won't be a cab, I can promise you that. Don't get me wrong, I love a 911 cab, good lines and who doesn't want to go topless, but if you are driving a 911 cab be ready to be regarded as a dandy.

---Adam

Toast54 · 03-30-2018, 12:02 PM

Rather foppish meself..now excuse me whilst I snort patchouli-enhanced snuff.

faapgar · 03-30-2018, 12:49 PM

Howard Meister won the SCCA National Runoffs in BProduction in a Andial Sponsered Targa with a Richie Ginther low cut windscreen like the 914-6.It had a high butterfly mechanical injection with single plug.Ciao Fred

SalParadise · 03-30-2018, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

Because the enthusiasm for Porsche is fueled by the racing provenance. That's why the Speedster is the most popular 356, it was the most raced. Same with the 911, the coupe was on the track. No one ever took the checker in a 911 cab or a Targa...

Let's agree to disagree on this one sir. And a good day sir. Good day.

Unobtanium-inc · 03-30-2018, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by faapgar

Howard Meister won the SCCA National Runoffs in BProduction in a Andial Sponsered Targa with a Richie Ginther low cut windscreen like the 914-6.It had a high butterfly mechanical injection with single plug.Ciao Fred

Those car's were probably the exception, rather than the rule. Walt Mass won IMSA in a 914-6, but it didn't work with the car Garretson/Anderson built the next year, I know, I have the car, and it didn't win.