Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 996/997/991 Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1
996 ims bearing failed

Today the IMS Bearing in my 2003 996 Targa failed. The dealer gave me supporting documents showing tthat the IMS Bearing had been replaced. Less than 90 days after purchasing this vehicle it (IMS BEARING) gastictopiclly failed.


Last edited by xenocles; 07-18-2019 at 02:29 PM..
Old 07-18-2019, 02:17 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 230
How much damage to the motor?

What was your driving style? Aggressive hitting redline often ? Take it easy seldom over 5k rpm etc?

Its a machine all can be fixed
Old 07-18-2019, 03:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Evil Genius
 
Rusty Heap's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: On top of my BBQ
Posts: 5,649
Garage
mileage?


RIP.

moment of silence for the deceased.
__________________
Life is a big ocean to swim in.

Wag more, bark less.
Old 07-18-2019, 04:12 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
unindicted co-conspirator
 
looneybin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,660
The previous bearing probably failed and they just slapped a new bearing in it and called it good
The debris in the motor from the previous failed bearing killed the new bearing

Sorry for your loss, time for a factory long block or LS3?
__________________
'03 996 - sport exhaust, sport seats, M030 sport suspension, stability control, IMS Solution
‘86 928S3 - barn find project car
Old 07-18-2019, 05:50 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Pittsford, NY
Posts: 3,721
Well that is a real Bi7(h!!!
Clearly not all replacement bearings are the same. What type did they put in? The '03 originals were the worst year. Hopefully there is some recourse for you. If they replace the engine, they replacement engines have the 'non-servicable' IMS bearing. It is the same one used in the late '05's through '08 in 997's (987 Cayman and Boxster too).
Hopefully you have a lemon law or something that gives you a way to recover. Sorry to hear that!
__________________
Tony G
10 Porsches come & gone!
1962 Morgan Plus 4
Old 07-19-2019, 01:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 23
You have rights under consumer right act if you brought from dealer, they should put right.
Old 07-21-2019, 12:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
unindicted co-conspirator
 
looneybin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,660
Quote:
Originally Posted by pdwhyte75 View Post
You have rights under consumer right act if you brought from dealer, they should put right.
Good luck with that
You drove it for almost 3 months
Used cars are sold “as-is”

Sorry to be a debi downer, but you will have a huge up hill battle with the dealer
They will tell you to pound sand, you own it
__________________
'03 996 - sport exhaust, sport seats, M030 sport suspension, stability control, IMS Solution
‘86 928S3 - barn find project car
Old 07-21-2019, 06:11 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 23
If you bought it from a dealer you have rights, my engine blew up 30 days after purchase, I won the court case under consumer rights act, car needs to be fit for purpose for first 6 months,

Look it up. Took me a year but I won 9.2k repair bill. Getting money off them is another story.... I have a court case for his payment plan coming up soon.
Old 07-21-2019, 10:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 23
I should add I am in the uk.... law could be different in the USA
Old 07-21-2019, 10:56 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
strath44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Scotland
Posts: 670
Garage
Where are you with this?

Where did you buy the car and what date was the IMS done?
__________________
1991 944 Turbo
2012 VW Passat
2008 Mini Cooper
Old 08-06-2019, 08:18 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Rapewta's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 985
Today, when the IMS bearing is replaced, the independent or dealer puts a sticker inside the door jamb stating the date of the upgrade. That might help in sorting out what can be done.
Sorry for the trouble. Good luck. It can happen to any of us.
Old 08-30-2019, 07:41 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1
I am driving my very 1st Porsche. 2000 996 Carrera w/ tiptronic tranny. This IMS thing has caused some anguish. Bought my 911 3yrs ago with 13k mileage. Now have a little over 40K miles. Just did fourth oil change and found no metal shavings on the magnetic oil sump plug. Should I be worried?
Old 09-28-2019, 01:03 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: OC CA
Posts: 1,119
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeabbott1950 View Post
I am driving my very 1st Porsche. 2000 996 Carrera w/ tiptronic tranny. This IMS thing has caused some anguish. Bought my 911 3yrs ago with 13k mileage. Now have a little over 40K miles. Just did fourth oil change and found no metal shavings on the magnetic oil sump plug. Should I be worried?
Best thing for you is to get a oil sample from your engine & send it to LN Engineering so they cant test it for metal particles.
Old 09-28-2019, 02:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Cajundaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southern Idaho
Posts: 6,019
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeabbott1950 View Post
I am driving my very 1st Porsche. 2000 996 Carrera w/ tiptronic tranny. This IMS thing has caused some anguish. Bought my 911 3yrs ago with 13k mileage. Now have a little over 40K miles. Just did fourth oil change and found no metal shavings on the magnetic oil sump plug. Should I be worried?
Increase your oil change frequency to every 4000 miles. Inspect the oil filter each change for shiny bits. If the IMS has never been changed you can install an upgraded bearing now and every 50k miles. These basic maintenance steps are likely to avoid catastrophic failure and a lost motor.
__________________
2021 Cayman GTS 4.0L
2020 Macan (dog hauler)
Old 09-28-2019, 05:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Rapewta's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 985
It is well known that only three percent of the 911's from 1999 on had IMS failures.
I bought mine used and worried about the bearing failure. I just drove it knowing 3% would fail and I am not one of them.
I eventually had the clutch replaced and they upgraded the bearing.
94K and the car is like new.
Old 09-29-2019, 07:48 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Near Raleigh, North Carolina
Posts: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeabbott1950 View Post
I am driving my very 1st Porsche. 2000 996 Carrera w/ tiptronic tranny. This IMS thing has caused some anguish. Bought my 911 3yrs ago with 13k mileage. Now have a little over 40K miles. Just did fourth oil change and found no metal shavings on the magnetic oil sump plug. Should I be worried?
I bought my 1999 996 eight years ago with about 40K miles...it now has over 110K miles....original IMS.....and I am not worried....
__________________
'99 996 Convertible
'94 MB E420 (Gone)
'86 MB 300E (Gone)
'87 MGM (Gone)
Old 10-16-2019, 06:51 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 4
Garage
Had my IMS bearing replaced (LN Engr unit) at 65K miles and the IMS bearing was in perfect condition.
Old 10-22-2019, 04:34 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 23
IMS: Retrofit vs Solution?

I own a 2003 996 Targa, about 24,000 miles on the car. Original bearing in place.
-going to change the IMS soon: Trying to decide between LN Engineering: Retrofit vs Solution.
-Retrofit suggested life span is 6 yrs/75,00 miles. My driving milage will never hit 75,000 miles in 6 yrs.
-any thoughts from those who have changed the bearing and which did you choose to go with.
Thanks to all.
Old 10-25-2019, 09:07 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
JFP in PA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Earth.............
Posts: 2,908
IMS Solution.
__________________
Accrochez-vous bien de vos rêves..........."
Old 10-25-2019, 01:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 142
I own a 2003 996 Targa, about 24,000 miles on the car. Original bearing in place.
-going to change the IMS soon: Trying to decide between LN Engineering: Retrofit vs Solution.
-Retrofit suggested life span is 6 yrs/75,00 miles. My driving milage will never hit 75,000 miles in 6 yrs.
-any thoughts from those who have changed the bearing and which did you choose to go with.
Thanks to all.

The issue with IMS is lack of lubrication, make sure you go with the one with direct lubrication feed to the IMS (if that is possible with the type of bearing you have, single row vs double row)
Watch 12:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0dqyvvf8uw

Old 10-26-2019, 05:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:52 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2026 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.