[SalParadise]

BaT is such a rainbow, ra-ra, cheerleading crowd that I have been banned and blocked when I wrote the comment below:


"Personally, I abhor negative comments on BaT, however we seem to be in a time period that glosses over the 964 with half-baked romanticism and philosophy. This is not directed at the 964 presented here per say, but what people are buying. Since this particular example is a 1992, it's much better quality than earlier 964s but still there is to me a lot to be desired.

Watching the PCA 964 RS video proves this. I remember not 20 years ago the 964 was a car to stay away from - with good reason. They weren't considered good cars. From oil leaks to a no-gasket brilliance that Porsche engineers put into the engine the early cars did not fare well.

In the video they call the '80s a period of stagnation for Porsche. Maybe, but I still see it as Porsche's decade of refinement. The G-Body 911 was so good, simple and ahead of its time that it was refined in the 80s as an old blade, an old soft shoe, worn but incredible nonetheless.

People look at the 964 as this major leap forward. It was not. The world was in the midst of a massive world-wide recession that went from late 1989 (when the C4 was introduced to America) through the early 1990s. Cars in general did not do well.
Porsche was scrambling when they made the 964. You can see that the 964 leaves a lot to be desired (hence the Porsche rebate of $5K even when this car came out). The 964 was in essence a test bed where the 993 can be seen as refined and what the 964 should have been.

I had the opportunity to visit the Porsche factory in late 1992. The workers were seemed glum. There was no excitement. Just a sort of low-level fear that this may be the end of the great brand. This was an era of uncertainty for Porsche, and there were so many changes in the 964 (justified or survival for the 911) that the factory seemed depressed. Nothing was selling. 85% new was nothing to brag about - as Porsche realized all the handwork that went into a G-body was not sustainable or workable with the new laws. This is/was nothing to brag about.
I am just trying to tell people that in historical context, with a world-wide recession and no money, they did what they had to do with the 964. And that was get it out the door on a deadline.

Sorry, my comments are not to be negative, but realistic. These 964 RSs have very, very little in common with the old 70's RS, but more like an inexpensive marketing ploy to save money and move cars.
What is awesome about this car is that it was used for it's intended purpose - marketing or not - and was raced. The history is interesting. Whether that adds money, I have no idea. I suspect it does not."

WELL GUYS the 964 has it's place. I understand this.

I thought it was well written and informative. Last time I am posting on there. I should have learned my lesson when a Ferrari that I actually worked on and drove was known more by someone who never was even near the actual car.

Oh well.