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Milt, I had to reread your first post but just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you visit Observatory, Huntington Library or Death Valley. Go during the week, there shouldn't be too many people there. I rode my bike up straight up the Observatory this afternoon at 4pm, suffered like hell, but there were few tourist there and there's even empty spaces in their lot. Of course, I rode by and kept going. What's wrong with restaurants in Long Beach or places near by? If they aren't good, don't go back?
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