[M.D. Holloway]

The amazing thing is that I will almost garuntee that there were managers and engineers in the line with credit cards ready. These guys were good at the spin and manipulation - their story was compelling and what made the arguement was the fact they were sandwiched in between credible guys like Zig, Joe, Rudy and Tommy. Made you think it was legit when it fact it was *****.

The reasons why my boss and the rest of us went to this thing was to 1) get a "legit" day away and 2) hear what the leaders in sales and leadership skills had to say (made us all relize that we are spot on and then some!), and 3) se Joe, Rudy and Tommy at no charge.

I should have doen a web search on this to see if it was really any good. If I read my on thread I would have never attended.