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Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 View Post
The roids will help some but the hand to eye is where it is all at and no drug will help with that. Plenty of the boys are on the juice and not many can hit like him.

Still though, it is illegal and he should be put in jail or what ever it is they do to repeat drug offenders.
But the reality is, without the steroids, he would not be near 755 home runs right now. No way, no how. No one would argue that steroids didn't help him get more home runs. When he was juicing, he was practically hitting check swing homers. Ridiculous.

He's still one of the great players, certainly one of the greatest hitters. But those 70 home run seasons were courtesy of the juice. I don't think there is ANY disagreement that the steroids gave him at least 100 home runs.

Again, 655 home runs is spectacular, and his career would have been spectacular without the roids. But that's the problem. The HR record is the greatest and most revered records in all of sports, having only changed hands twice in the last 85 years. And I don't think there is ANYBODY who would argue that without the roids, Bonds would not be at 754 right now. So it taints the whole thing, forever.

My take: I think it's sad for everyone involved. It's sad for one of the greatest players ever, who overcame unbelievable adversity and bigotry (read a book on Hank Aaron's life in the bigs, amazing). It's sad for Bonds. IMO you can see it on his face every time the camera shows a closeup. He knows he's wouldn't be there but for the cheating, and that something he worked so many years for is highly tainted. It's sad for all of baseball.

And, it's sad for kids. I know most here aren't baseball fans, but believe it or not, there are millions of kids who play baseball and are big baseball fans. It's very confusing for them. Go to any little league field, and you hear the kids saying "But he cheated" and "He took drugs." Sad that 7, 8 and 9 year olds are saying those things when talking about baseball.
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